2 hours ago, DRW50 said:

I think the main difference is if Kirsten had been there they likely would have reunited and we would have seen her sense something was wrong, instead of that beat being done in about a week.

Yeah, I really wish that they had kept that going through Britt and Spin.

2 hours ago, CrazySexyQ said:

As for the rest of today's show, Rory is too damn good a recast to be left with busy work. Put him back in a hot story.

Speak on it!

59 minutes ago, titan1978 said:

I can’t remember if they had Ava sleep with him though.

She didn't.

58 minutes ago, titan1978 said:

I just hate these stories more and more because they had Lulu sleep with him, only she didn’t know who he really was. And it’s not like he was brainwashed and also didn’t know. It’s just another version of SA. All of her stories right now are about being violated, and that is sad to me because it’s all plot driven nonsense with her babies and now NotNathan, and the show isn’t written to be on her side. Rocco still thinks Britt is somewhat important to him, Charlotte and Valentin are as gross as ever, now this.

When the Ryan returns story took off while Genie was off contract, they were very careful when Laura returned to play up a disconnect in their marriage and that they were not intimate before breaking up and the reveals starting. I can’t remember if they had Ava sleep with him though. But I had hoped they had finally learned not to tell these stories, after years of nonsense like this. Marty and Todd while she had no memory but Todd did comes to mind.

I know it’s just a silly plot on a not serious show. But it bothers me, especially right now when our culture is at war with women’s autonomy.

Lulu's constant violations bother me too and the show just keeps doubling down. Charlotte's existence is such an affront. Mothers and daughters, especially teens, clash but I never feel that Charlotte even cares about Lulu. She's just there. Even in this story, it feels as if Lulu was just inserted into Maxie's place and it won't matter that that she had sex with a man under false pretenses.

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Sidenote...so...they dropped the other shoe on Nathan it sounds like...well...it is giving a hint of fumble, but I am liking you all discussions on it. But it's been a nice discussion since RP reappeared.

57 minutes ago, titan1978 said:

I just hate these stories more and more because they had Lulu sleep with him, only she didn’t know who he really was. And it’s not like he was brainwashed and also didn’t know. It’s just another version of SA. All of her stories right now are about being violated, and that is sad to me because it’s all plot driven nonsense with her babies and now NotNathan, and the show isn’t written to be on her side. Rocco still thinks Britt is somewhat important to him, Charlotte and Valentin are as gross as ever, now this.

GH loves to have Lulu violated and act like she's ridiculous for bringing up any concern. It's not even like she harps on it or constantly talks about it. She's just considered in the wrong for discussing the reasons she is not being welcoming enough to Valentin or Britt. She should literally get restraining orders on them for real.

I owe RP an apology. He's not the world's best actor, but he did have some instinct to add some dimension to the imposter. He was told not to, according to his new interview. So, I can't put this all on him. This was a choice by the writers.

13 minutes ago, carolineg said:

She's just considered in the wrong for discussing the reasons she is not being welcoming enough to Valentin or Britt. She should literally get restraining orders on them for real.

Well, she's not in the wrong. I wasn't even around when Val did what he did, but I know the history so why wouldn't she have issues? As for Britt...well...I was here for that history...and the writing is not helping. Lulu has every right to feel a way about Britt...who still calls Rocco Ben. What mother wouldn't?

The writing could still play layers and not have Lulu come across in the wrong. Not that she's wrong at all. It's just that darn propped/Frank's Fave writing that is an annoying writing flaw on a otherwise well moving soap. I just don't see how they don't get it and...well...write better.

2 minutes ago, CrazySexyQ said:

So, I can't put this all on him. This was a choice by the writers.

Case in point to what I just said about the writers. Le sigh. Thank you for that.

Van, Van, Van… you’ll always be special to me but goddamn 😂😂

I know Lucas is supposed to be grief-stricken but I really think he should’ve played it with a little more subtlety

And yeah, I gotta say it again, Laura is the worst Mayor ever.

17 minutes ago, CrazySexyQ said:

I owe RP an apology. He's not the world's best actor, but he did have some instinct to add some dimension to the imposter. He was told not to, according to his new interview. So, I can't put this all on him. This was a choice by the writers.

I'll credit him when he adds something in future. He didn't today.

Edited 59 minutes ago59 min by Vee

Actually with that out of the bag, will the writers let him add a layer or two?

The other thing about that interview is RP indicates Cassius is just a 'henchman' for Sidwell and Cullum. Which, in addition to being deeply tedious as neither of them are very interesting as villains, marks a change. Last year it was clear Sidwell answered to someone else, and I got the impression Cullum was not that man when he appeared. It makes me think they decided RP could not play the Big Bad (accurate).

He also talks about Cassius being humanized, which makes me think FV wants to see if they can keep him. Pass.

That you did.

Of course, they would do a rewrite. Sad that Callum is more annoying than menacing.