4 hours ago, carolineg said:

Yes. It was a really ugly story though that felt thrown together almost last minute. From the quotes I have read I am not sure if Deidre disliked the actor or the story or both?

Ironically, it was the most challenging material Deidre Hall has ever played - on DAYS, or anywhere else. It was more challenging than even the possession (if that's possible, lol).

1 minute ago, Khan said:

Ironically, it was the most challenging material Deidre Hall has ever played - on DAYS, or anywhere else. It was more challenging than even the possession (if that's possible, lol).

Oh, I agree. Deidre was quite a revelation to me when I watched her early material. I was more I heart you Marlena/John 4 ever before I saw some of her best work. I will never disparage my OG love of J/M, but I find a lot of Don/Marlena and Roman/Marlena very satisfying. I think her finding out Sam was murdered is very good as well. Wayne was a great acting partner for her. Marlena wasn't just a perfect heroine. She had depth.

DJ dying was a little histrionic to me, but IIRC Maggie is the one that comforts her first. So we are full circle on the Dee/Suzanne story now.

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13 minutes ago, carolineg said:

Oh, I agree. Deidre was quite a revelation to me when I watched her early material. I was more I heart you Marlena/John 4 ever before I saw some of her best work. I will never disparage my OG love of J/M, but I find a lot of Don/Marlena and Roman/Marlena very satisfying. I think her finding out Sam was murdered is very good as well. Wayne was a great acting partner for her. Marlena wasn't just a perfect heroine. She had depth.

Even during the '80's supercouple era, when the show transitioned Marlena into more of an action/adventure heroine, they still presented her as a smart, sensible woman with a thriving psychiatric practice. She could've just as easily fit in on AMC or OLTL as she did on DAYS.

10 hours ago, Khan said:

True, but acting (on a daytime drama) isn't like working at Hertz. If you or I are having issues with one or more of our colleagues, and we are in a position where we could limit our day-to-day interactions with them or avoid them entirely, we do so, if only because we know our paychecks are on the line. But if you're an actor, and you're getting paid to play opposite someone you dislike personally, then it's your duty to leave the hostilities off the set or stage and play the scene and the relationship with that other actor as written.

Who knows? Maybe you're right, and maybe the show just should avoid placing DH and SR in scenes together from here on out. (ATWT did that for years after Colleen Zenk and Jacqueline Schulz reportedly had had some kind of falling out, even though their characters (Barbara Ryan and Dee Stewart, respectively) were supposed to be close friends). Again, though, Marlena and Maggie have shared decades of close friendship on-screen, so it's weird to go from all that to where we are today: long stretches with zero interaction (even though it would make sense for them to confide in each other routinely about their separate dramas) punctuated by scenes like the ones we saw the other day, where the tension between the two is palpable and doesn't make sense, given the nature of their relationship.

This question goes to anyone who's a longtime Y&R fan: in the past, Jeanne Cooper (Katherine Chancellor) talked about how Melody Thomas Scott (Nikki Newman) did not speak to her for years, even though Cooper herself had no idea why; and how their one-sided feud ended one day as mysteriously as it had begun. (IIRC, when Cooper broached the subject, Scott just kind of waved her off, like, "Oh, that's old news." Whatever, Melody, lol). Was the tension between the actors ever present on-screen? Remember, Kay took Nikki under her wing, so I imagine they had to share at least SOME screen time.

ATWT was riddled with feuds between female co-stars in the early/mid '80s which drove several women off the show (including, supposedly, Ariana Muenker, the only interesting young woman on the show at that time).

Some of the hardcore Y&R fans will remember better than I do but I don't think Melody and Jeanne shared scenes together very often in that time frame (I think that may be one of the reasons why Jill, not Nikki, was there for Katherine when she had a breast cancer scare).

15 minutes ago, DRW50 said:

ATWT was riddled with feuds between female co-stars in the early/mid '80s which drove several women off the show (including, supposedly, Ariana Muenker, the only interesting young woman on the show at that time).

Some of the hardcore Y&R fans will remember better than I do but I don't think Melody and Jeanne shared scenes together very often in that time frame (I think that may be one of the reasons why Jill, not Nikki, was there for Katherine when she had a breast cancer scare).

Side note that's not relevant for the day to day thread, but I like Ariana Munker as Kim. I am pretty sure I am the only one.

9 minutes ago, carolineg said:

Side note that's not relevant for the day to day thread, but I like Ariana Munker as Kim. I am pretty sure I am the only one.

That's more relevant than anything I was writing. Sorry to go off topic.

Just now, DRW50 said:

That's more relevant than anything I was writing. Sorry to go off topic.

Lol. I don't care at all. But I have been warned before.

I really did like her as Kim. And I really like PP and Kim/Shane.

The only odd thing about Munker (Muenker?) is she didn't use that name when as Kim on Days. As I recall, at the time Munker filled in for Patsy Pease, she was then going by Arianna Chase. Why the surname change? Who knows.

But I recall that actor Charles Grant (Evan Bates, AW; Connor McCabe, Santa Barbara) was known as Charles Flohe early on, so it must be an actor thing...

2 hours ago, Wendy said:

The only odd thing about Munker (Muenker?) is she didn't use that name when as Kim on Days. As I recall, at the time Munker filled in for Patsy Pease, she was then going by Arianna Chase. Why the surname change? Who knows.

But I recall that actor Charles Grant (Evan Bates, AW; Connor McCabe, Santa Barbara) was known as Charles Flohe early on, so it must be an actor thing...

Probably got divorced? I usually call her Arianna Chase because I only know her Days work.

I liked her during the Marlena/John affair story because she was the only Brady that wasn't judgy McJudgerson and understood there were crazy reasons this all happened.

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20 hours ago, DaytimeFan said:

You are absolutely right that Deidre carried the show for decades. There's no denying that.

totally agree she was a massive part of what made the show what it was for decades and carried so many iconic storylines its only natural that her role has shifted over time but her presence still adds so much and her chemistry with other actors is always a highlight