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On 12/23/2025 at 6:38 AM, Maxim said:

Chile this is the first time I'm hearing about this. I must have been living under a rock.

This looks like the exact type of stuff I'll want to watch with my husband during the Holidays.

You betta get onto it like the Hamilton Widow getting onto poisoning Bill. ;P

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On 12/23/2025 at 7:28 AM, OzFrog said:

Everybody needs a Scott Hunter in their lives… 🥰🫠

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I've spoken about it already in here but it is easily the best adult LGBT show I've seen in quite a long time and it's not close. It's beautifully shot and written, in addition to the excellent work from the leads and of course the remarkably explicit content.

A recent interview from Jacob Tierney that various streamers or bigger outlets tried to push them to move all the physical consummation and sex to Season 2 (or add another 'female entry point') speaks to not only the political climate but I think just generally a squeamishness about this kind of material when it's not couched in the Heartstopper, etc. mold. There's a drive to neuter gay sexuality and try to make it much more about emotional intimacy between men vs. the physical, and a tendency from female-driven fandoms of these shows to infantilize the characters or stars as desexualized pets. All of the above also being a line of attack the Guardian happens to level at HR too, but which I think is very clearly inaccurate and untrue - you can't get through virtually any episode of this show without explicit, often dom/sub-flavored fúcking. There's no way for young or sheltered audiences to engage with this and strip out the sex. Tierney himself has said 'these books are porn', but fortunately there's more to the story than that.

I like Heartstopper a lot but it's a sweet coming of age story about two young boys as written by an asexual woman in the late 2010s. They amped up the sensuality a bit as they matured, but it's still something very rarefied. HR is also written by a woman, something that made me skeptical going in as does any huge hype cycle around a new show these days, but Reid is a generation older which may speak to why the material is more frank and explicit. And Tierney, the showrunner, is an old pro in Canadian circles and openly gay, so that helps considerably.

A THR piece re: the female audience.

Reid has theories as to why women are so drawn to her material. “A lot of my female readers prefer to not have a woman in the book because of their own, usually dark pasts with sex with men,” she says. “They prefer to get lost in a fantasy where there’s nobody there that they can relate to directly. They don’t want to insert themselves into these sex scenes. It just feels safer.”

She also thinks there’s an appeal to the kinds of men she writes about — men “who are emotionally vulnerable, who are maybe just a little bit different from the partner they have or the ex that they had.”

Then there’s just the basic math of human sexuality. If you like penises, the thinking goes, two are better than one. “Men like lesbian porn,” Reid reasons. “So why wouldn’t women like this?”

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