49 minutes ago, ranger1rg said:

Yeah, I agree. I hated the character but this is pretty ugly stuff.

 

Very morbid.  There was no emotional stakes to have her casket there without anyone at the memorial, so why bother?

23 minutes ago, ranger1rg said:

I also think pulling a gun would be completely out of character for Lucas.

I agree.  Lucas did look a bit desperate, but I think of him as a normal character.  He's not going against the mob everyday even if he is aware of Sonny's business.  That's how a regular person should react to that craziness.

Having a picture of Eva LaRue on a set so similar to Wildwind is odd and eerie for me. It feels all too familiar.

Sonny: I like Marco.

Me: So do I. 😋

Edited July 16Jul 16 by DemetriKane

Very eerie. 

8 hours ago, John said:

It seems GH is saying that if you have babies thru IVF or adoption your not a mother. Bad take GH

 

GH has a bad pattern of motherhood being so explicitly black and white. It's unsettling and feels like an agenda is being pushed. 

I hate the way Gio treats Brook. I'm all for angst, but it's low-hanging fruit for him to whine that his birth mother didn't want him. As if he's a child who can't understand why a teenager couldn't be a mother? Moreover, he had a mother who loved him. It's blood or nothing with this show. 

4 hours ago, carolineg said:

Very morbid.  There was no emotional stakes to have her casket there without anyone at the memorial, so why bother?

I agree.  Lucas did look a bit desperate, but I think of him as a normal character.  He's not going against the mob everyday even if he is aware of Sonny's business.  That's how a regular person should react to that craziness.

I think soaps have desensitized audiences to guns so much it’s hard to grasp characters having normal reactions like a normal person now and actually begging and pleading instead of threatening to kill. I thought Van played his desperation perfectly. Ryan Carnes was so low energy I don’t think these scenes would’ve worked with him. But I know I’m in the minority that didn’t care for him.
 

Rory plays dark and menacing towards Willow so well as Michael. Every day I’m more and more impressed by him. JG at Y&R truly is a hack.

Tracy blackmailing Nina was great as expected. I love Tracy as the head of the Quartermaines. And Sonny killing AJ is now finally being acknowledged regularly even though it seems no one cares when this is brought up because Sonny is the neighborhood friendly mobster. Even now I think we’re supposed to be on his side against Sidwell.

Edited July 16Jul 16 by Antoyne

Loved the Tracy and Nina scenes.

Marco hits one of kidnappers over the head with a chair and he doesn't escape? Yeah right!

I hate Sonny. He needs to be killed off for good!

 

8 hours ago, Antoyne said:

I think soaps have desensitized audiences to guns so much it’s hard to grasp characters having normal reactions like a normal person now and actually begging and pleading instead of threatening to kill. I thought Van played his desperation perfectly. Ryan Carnes was so low energy I don’t think these scenes would’ve worked with him. But I know I’m in the minority that didn’t care for him.
 

Carnes is definitely lower energy, but I can still see him playing those scenes just differently.  Van and Ryan have such opposite takes on the character of Lucas it's almost hard to compare.  I actually think both performances work though.  Van is still hit or miss for me on the emotional stuff, although I thought he was good yesterday.  And, no, there is no reason for Lucas to pull out a gun or threaten violence.  He's not that character.

8 hours ago, Antoyne said:

Rory plays dark and menacing towards Willow so well as Michael. Every day I’m more and more impressed by him. JG at Y&R truly is a hack.

It's hard for me to imagine Rory's Michael ever loving Willow.  Speaking of Willow does she ever actually work at the hospital?  She spent her shift fighting with Lucas, talking to Isiah, creeping on Michael and Sasha, then collapsed into a heap in Drew's arms.  She doesn't seem to do any nursing lol.

9 hours ago, Antoyne said:

Even now I think we’re supposed to be on his side against Sidwell.

Well, I am not on Sidwell's side.  They both suck.  I find Sidwell more annoying than Sonny though.

2 hours ago, carolineg said:

Carnes is definitely lower energy, but I can still see him playing those scenes just differently.  Van and Ryan have such opposite takes on the character of Lucas it's almost hard to compare.  I actually think both performances work though.  Van is still hit or miss for me on the emotional stuff, although I thought he was good yesterday.  And, no, there is no reason for Lucas to pull out a gun or threaten violence.  He's not that character.

It's hard for me to imagine Rory's Michael ever loving Willow.  Speaking of Willow does she ever actually work at the hospital?  She spent her shift fighting with Lucas, talking to Isiah, creeping on Michael and Sasha, then collapsed into a heap in Drew's arms.  She doesn't seem to do any nursing lol.

Well, I am not on Sidwell's side.  They both suck.  I find Sidwell more annoying than Sonny though.

For me at least the Sidwell  actor has an accent and seems committed in every scene 😂. That goes a long way for me against Sonny and MB.

Credits for Wednesday, July 16, 2025:

Created by: Frank & Doris Hursley
Executive producer: Frank Valentini
Head writers: Elizabeth Korte, Chris Van Etten
Writers: Micah Steinberg, Stacey Pulwer, Cathy Lepard
Director: Robert Markham

14 hours ago, Antoyne said:

Rory plays dark and menacing towards Willow so well as Michael. Every day I’m more and more impressed by him. JG at Y&R truly is a hack.

The bold.

Drew had the same idea I did last week about setting Michael up with an opioid addiction.  It would have been diabolical if Willow thought of it.

Everything else was pretty boring although I liked Sasha/Nina and Nina/Curtis.  Portia is just on my last nerve.  Is she planning on being under Drew's thumb forever and ever?  She's better off coming clean at this point and salvage whatever she can.

9 minutes ago, carolineg said:

Portia is just on my last nerve.  Is she planning on being under Drew's thumb forever and ever? 

Well, I'm still playing catch-up, but she had some great scenes that came across as a villainess at the start of the month. Perhaps she will be the next person to go dark...which at this point...I wouldn't mind. It also might be the only reason for Curtis/Jordan to get back together since the chances of nuances for Portia's turn to the dark side would be non-existent outside of how BK is playing it. 

28 minutes ago, Taoboi said:

Well, I'm still playing catch-up, but she had some great scenes that came across as a villainess at the start of the month. Perhaps she will be the next person to go dark...which at this point...I wouldn't mind. It also might be the only reason for Curtis/Jordan to get back together since the chances of nuances for Portia's turn to the dark side would be non-existent outside of how BK is playing it. 

I don't mind Portia going dark or even staying a heroine.  I just don't think she's going about this Drew stuff the right way.  Drew really can't expose Portia without exposing himself to some degree.  I hate her acting powerless.

2 minutes ago, carolineg said:

I don't mind Portia going dark or even staying a heroine.  I just don't think she's going about this Drew stuff the right way.  Drew really can't expose Portia without exposing himself to some degree.  I hate her acting powerless.

I agree. At this point, Drew is doing so much that surely Portia can trip him up. Better yet...bring Ava back into it. Ava will surely stay having Trina's mama's back. 

 

I also hate her being powerless as well. It's a waste of BR's talents. It's part of the reason I noticed the aforementioned scenes cuz BR was playing something different rather than weak, but she was also adding layers to what Portia was doing that I actually had her side though she was making her issues with Curtis worse. 

I've been thinking. There have been dicussions of NotBritt, notaclone, notViki, notNathan, notMonica'srelative, notMizWu,.... so what if they just give the show a new name, NotCharles?