18 minutes ago, Paul Raven said:

Noticing that they seem to be done to about 4 sets per episode and one conversation/meet up can last the whole episode.

It's FF material.

Hopefully BTG will continue to thrive and they might be forced to up the budget to compete.

Who is holding Shaz and Phyl hostage? Wouldn't be surprised at anything Joshie comes up with.

I can't believe that CBS/Sony are approving his stories. They are AWFUL.

Ian is the obvious answer to me.

13 hours ago, Paul Raven said:

Noticing that they seem to be done to about 4 sets per episode and one conversation/meet up can last the whole episode.

It's FF material.

-- That's how I feel. These conversations with a couple sitting at a table for the entire episode are deadly and maddening. They're so low energy it's pathetic.

Even the Victor/Claire conversation was a waste. We got multiple scenes of Claire putting up her argument for seeing Kyle, and Victor seems amenable. It ends, though, with Victor making comments and faces that tell us nothing has changed for him. So what was it all for? Why make us sit through that?

Likewise, an episode-long conversation between Adam and Chelsea about their relationship is boring. There's no reason to care about them. Ditto for Billy and Sally. Why should I care that they're in love?

-- I know I'm a broken record, but the sets problem on Y&R is enormous. Creating a beautiful new set like Billy's house (and I do think it's great) is not enough. Moving characters from the GCAC to Society to Crimson Lights and back to Society and then to the GCAC is just awful, and it takes me out of many scenes.

-- Josh Griffith apparently thinks talking about a new set (the Abbott mansion redo) is a storyline. It isn't.

 

13 hours ago, Antoyne said:

Ian is the obvious answer to me.

I think Ian is the kidnapper of Sharon and Phyllis, too. Why? He is the obvious answer, and Josh Griffith is so bad at his job that he thinks we'll be shocked at the obvious perp.

 

I sum up Sharon/Phyllis storyline as "what is this mess?"

32 minutes ago, ranger1rg said:

-- That's how I feel. These conversations with a couple sitting at a table for the entire episode are deadly and maddening. They're so low energy it's pathetic.

Even the Victor/Claire conversation was a waste. We got multiple scenes of Claire putting up her argument for seeing Kyle, and Victor seems amenable. It ends, though, with Victor making comments and faces that tell us nothing has changed for him. So what was it all for? Why make us sit through that?

Likewise, an episode-long conversation between Adam and Chelsea about their relationship is boring. There's no reason to care about them. Ditto for Billy and Sally. Why should I care that they're in love?

-- I know I'm a broken record, but the sets problem on Y&R is enormous. Creating a beautiful new set like Billy's house (and I do think it's great) is not enough. Moving characters from the GCAC to Society to Crimson Lights and back to Society and then to the GCAC is just awful, and it takes me out of many scenes.

-- Josh Griffith apparently thinks talking about a new set (the Abbott mansion redo) is a storyline. It isn't.

 

I think Ian is the kidnapper of Sharon and Phyllis, too. Why? He is the obvious answer, and Josh Griffith is so bad at his job that he thinks we'll be shocked at the obvious perp.

 

There is so little energy to the show. You really highlighted the issue. It’s just two people at a table all episode having one conversation. That’s it.

21 minutes ago, kalbir said:

I sum up Sharon/Phyllis storyline as "what is this mess?"

I mean at this point...the only thing saving it is the chemistry of the actresses in spite of how much I don't want to admit that. 

 

Part of me wants them to go at it like Marlena and Kristen in the Secret Room on DAYS if they are going to do this.

 

 

3-6

 

And again like I said yesterday, it's the Damian storyline keeping this show afloat. Though this episode did have other things going on that kept my interest. 

 

So Devon got to interact with Damian. And I felt that was the highlight of the episode. If anyone would understand what Damian would be feeling knowing his father was not his blood father, it would be Devon. It made up for him telling on Lily and her background search. I'm not sure if Damian should have been tipped off, but it does not seem like that will stop Damian/Lily from happening so cool.

 

And I love that Amy is going for it. She agreed with Nate to see the specialist. I would like to keep her around so I'm all for that.

 

Other than that, I do like that Claire is using that evil brain of hers to start to side-eye Summer. Because Summer has been making it clear with her potshots. And I liked the scene between them about Claire's career. Yes, Claire saw working with children as a thing she liked and her redemption, but Claire also had a passion for the business work. And she's been showing it and dressing it. So that backbone is still there. So I liked the Nikki/Claire scene. 

 

I also liked Kyle calling Summer out. But again...I feel Summer was better off with Chance. But alas...

I really need to finish last week’s episodes of The SAW and the Restless….

On 3/9/2025 at 4:12 PM, kalbir said:

I sum up Sharon/Phyllis storyline as "what is this mess?"

See above LOL. 
 

On 3/9/2025 at 3:46 PM, ranger1rg said:

-- That's how I feel. These conversations with a couple sitting at a table for the entire episode are deadly and maddening. They're so low energy it's pathetic.

Even the Victor/Claire conversation was a waste. We got multiple scenes of Claire putting up her argument for seeing Kyle, and Victor seems amenable. It ends, though, with Victor making comments and faces that tell us nothing has changed for him. So what was it all for? Why make us sit through that?

Likewise, an episode-long conversation between Adam and Chelsea about their relationship is boring. There's no reason to care about them. Ditto for Billy and Sally. Why should I care that they're in love?

-- I know I'm a broken record, but the sets problem on Y&R is enormous. Creating a beautiful new set like Billy's house (and I do think it's great) is not enough. Moving characters from the GCAC to Society to Crimson Lights and back to Society and then to the GCAC is just awful, and it takes me out of many scenes.

-- Josh Griffith apparently thinks talking about a new set (the Abbott mansion redo) is a storyline. It isn't.

 

I think Ian is the kidnapper of Sharon and Phyllis, too. Why? He is the obvious answer, and Josh Griffith is so bad at his job that he thinks we'll be shocked at the obvious perp.

 

You perfectly summed up my frustration the show.

@Taoboi @kalbir @Antoyne @YRfan23 As for Sharon’s kidnapper obviously we know it’s probably Ian but I propose it to be NICK as responsible. This is all one giant scheme of his which is mind will end the animosity between Phyllis and Sharon. This revelation comes about at a garden party at the Newman party. Nick has a mental breakdown and desperately tries to explain his rationale, but Victor and Summer are unconvinced and have the authorities haul Nick off to Fairview. As Nick is hauled off in a straight jacket Victor promises his son he’ll get the best help. Morrow’s exit is announced afterward and frees up the budget. 

2 minutes ago, soapfan770 said:

I really need to finish last week’s episodes of The SAW and the Restless….

See above LOL. 
 

You perfectly summed up my frustration the show.

@Taoboi @kalbir @Antoyne @YRfan23 As for Sharon’s kidnapper obviously we know it’s probably Ian but I propose it to be NICK as responsible. This is all one giant scheme of his which is mind will end the animosity between Phyllis and Sharon. This revelation comes about at a garden party at the Newman party. Nick has a mental breakdown and desperately tries to explain his rationale, but Victor and Summer are unconvinced and have the authorities haul Nick off to Fairview. As Nick is hauled off in a straight jacket Victor promises his son he’ll get the best help. Morrow’s exit is announced afterward and frees up the budget. 

Now Saw and the Restless!!!

 

But can't we get Giggly Heffa off the canvas and thus the budget instead? 😜 

 

 

6 minutes ago, soapfan770 said:

I really need to finish last week’s episodes of The SAW and the Restless….

See above LOL. 
 

You perfectly summed up my frustration the show.

@Taoboi @kalbir @Antoyne @YRfan23 As for Sharon’s kidnapper obviously we know it’s probably Ian but I propose it to be NICK as responsible. This is all one giant scheme of his which is mind will end the animosity between Phyllis and Sharon. This revelation comes about at a garden party at the Newman party. Nick has a mental breakdown and desperately tries to explain his rationale, but Victor and Summer are unconvinced and have the authorities haul Nick off to Fairview. As Nick is hauled off in a straight jacket Victor promises his son he’ll get the best help. Morrow’s exit is announced afterward and frees up the budget. 

I’m actually one of the few Josh Morrow/Nick fans on the board, sooooory😂

I think Nick is behind this Sharon/Phyllis nonsense. For reasons. Maybe he has an Ian mask making him do things. 

Beyond pointless, this story is boring. The writers have ruined both women. Sharon comes off as if she's still being drugged. 

 

50 minutes ago, soapfan770 said:

I really need to finish last week’s episodes of The SAW and the Restless….

See above LOL. 
 

You perfectly summed up my frustration the show.

@Taoboi @kalbir @Antoyne @YRfan23 As for Sharon’s kidnapper obviously we know it’s probably Ian but I propose it to be NICK as responsible. This is all one giant scheme of his which is mind will end the animosity between Phyllis and Sharon. This revelation comes about at a garden party at the Newman party. Nick has a mental breakdown and desperately tries to explain his rationale, but Victor and Summer are unconvinced and have the authorities haul Nick off to Fairview. As Nick is hauled off in a straight jacket Victor promises his son he’ll get the best help. Morrow’s exit is announced afterward and frees up the budget. 

Haha, I'd actually welcome the idea of Nick having some sort of breakdown and getting locked up! 😂🤣 In a way it's what he deserves for what he's put Sharon through! 

53 minutes ago, Antoyne said:

I’m actually one of the few Josh Morrow/Nick fans on the board, sooooory😂

You ain't alone.

 

9 minutes ago, YRfan23 said:

Haha, I'd actually welcome the idea of Nick having some sort of breakdown and getting locked up! 😂🤣 In a way it's what he deserves for what he's put Sharon through! 

But could Josh pull it off?  

 

Just now, Taoboi said:

But could Josh pull it off?  

 

haha less said the better....😉

1 minute ago, YRfan23 said:

haha less said the better....😉

2 hours ago, soapfan770 said:

I really need to finish last week’s episodes of The SAW and the Restless….

Hahaha, dead.

2 hours ago, soapfan770 said:

IAs for Sharon’s kidnapper obviously we know it’s probably Ian but I propose it to be NICK as responsible. This is all one giant scheme of his which is mind will end the animosity between Phyllis and Sharon. This revelation comes about at a garden party at the Newman party. Nick has a mental breakdown and desperately tries to explain his rationale, but Victor and Summer are unconvinced and have the authorities haul Nick off to Fairview. As Nick is hauled off in a straight jacket Victor promises his son he’ll get the best help. 

Do not give Josh Griffith ideas.

2 hours ago, soapfan770 said:

Morrow’s exit is announced afterward and frees up the budget. 

2 hours ago, Taoboi said:

But can't we get Giggly Heffa off the canvas and thus the budget instead? 😜 

Hahaha, love it!

I've been saying for years that Y&R needs a big cast purge.

1 hour ago, YRfan23 said:

Haha, I'd actually welcome the idea of Nick having some sort of breakdown and getting locked up! 

JM does not have the acting skills to pull off an emotional breakdown.

Edited March 11Mar 11 by kalbir