DAYS: March 2025 Discussion Thread

[Contessa Donatella]

Oh crap. Inconvenient history. 

[carolineg]

You know they might have just been together at the time.  I think the fact she was raped/slept with EJ came out at Lucas and Sami's wedding.

[Contessa Donatella]

It was a clear case of Intimate Coercion. I was copy editor of a book about it. It's a real thing.

[janea4old]

It was rape.  Not 'slept with'

https://rainn.org/articles/sexual-assault
"What is force?
Force doesn’t always refer to physical pressure. Perpetrators may use emotional coercion, psychological force, or manipulation to coerce a victim into non-consensual sex. Some perpetrators will use threats to force a victim to comply, such as threatening to hurt the victim or their family or other intimidation tactics."

In this case, it was a threat to Lucas by intentionally allowing him to die if she didn't comply.

Edited 7 hours ago by janea4old

[carolineg]

OMG!  I am not arguing if Sami was raped or not.  I know she was.  I have never said it was consensual.  I was just saying how it was presented at Lucas/Sami's wedding.  A photo or video came out and it looked like she slept with EJ willingly.  Sami told Lucas the truth immediately. 

I don't need a PSA on sexual assault.   Thanks though.

[janea4old]

Oh I know you understand, not questioning you at all.

Just posting it out for the universe.  It's a triggering topic for me, and I sometimes feel the need to post about it.

[carolineg]

Understood.  I am sorry it is a triggering topic for you.  I could have worded my initial post better.  

[janea4old]

No worries

[Toups]

Correct.  I think this is the first time that the show finally saying it was rape because I don't remember it being discussed, on the show, as a rape.   I remember having arguments with some people on this board who said it wasn't rape.  Even years later, whenever someone mentioned this situation, people were still saying it wasn't rape.   As for what's happening now, I just wish Allie, Sami, and Lucas were on the show to properly deal with this sensitive issue.  I also didn't like how Johnny was told in the middle of the pub.  I know sets are limited but they couldn't figure out a better way for Johnny to find out?  And I don't think Ron Carlivati was the right writer to write this story. 

[AbcNbc247]

Ehhh…. I’m tired of Kristen and Stacy’s gotta go somewhere

Yeah. 
Kate revealed it, I think. And Lucas responded by shoving cake in her face

Considering his mindset about rape, 100% agree 

[te.]

I actually have no problems with Johnny not knowing or having asked too much about his conception. I mean, I would've just assumed she was with Lucas and had an affair with EJ, especially as she went on to marry him. I probably wouldn't have been too inclined to think about the practicalities of it either. I also don't have an issue with there being an unspoken / off screen "pact" with the adults. Again, that would've been Sami's place to tell him and Allie. 

That's because James Scott was hot, let's be real. It's the same issue that always comes up with soap opera rapists - often TPTB wants to cast a nice "hot" hunk to play the part to make a point, but then the audience takes to said hunk and they feel pressured to either retcon, redeem them or ignore it. Just look at how some wanted Charlie to stay because they thought Mike Manning was hot. Or of course the horrible example of Ben, the reformed serial killer of women. 

Soaps in general need to get better at sticking to their guns and not let audience popularity sway them in these cases. 

Edited just now by te.