To sum up, the gays all suck, and not in the fun way.

To pivot, for Paula Cwikly it'll be over 22 years since she was last headwriter. Is that the longest time between stints for a headwriter returning to front the same show again?

6 hours ago, Soapsuds said:

Seven minutes into Monday's episode and it's terrible. I can't believe they allowed such horribly written material be recorded on tape. 

This Body & Soul crap is DREADFUL isn’t it?

None of it works and it’s all so unnecessary for an umbrella story. Like WTF.

@AbcNbc247 I’m beginning to believe that this Body & Soul stuff was the final straw…we’ll probably see some offensive blatant Ken Corday parody in which is why RC was fired lol. 😂 

I feel sorry for the actor playing Javi having to kiss GR’s Leo lol. Since when is Leo a zaddy? 🤣

And did Bonnie really do an elevator fall L.A. Law style? LOL.

They had such a good opportunity to cause conflict for Rafe/Jada and they chose to do this crap instead.

SMH.

And all this emphasis on EJ making sure that Fake Rafe doesn’t rape Jada seems very un-Ron like, almost like Corday, Janet or somebody ordered him not to go there. If you think about it, you could almost say the same thing about Doug III and Leo. Not too long ago, Leo would have been all over him and trying to blackmail him into bed about the necklace.

The Bonnie/Justin/Alex scenes would have been better if they weren’t written like such a big joke. And, of course the head of the B&S wardrobe department would be named Richard. Seriously, I’m all joked out 🖕

Philip vs. Xander continues to be the best storyline. I like the way that it’s continuing to be built up and that it’s involving so many characters. This is the way that an umbrella storyline should be written. I wouldn’t mind the two of them going after Dimera either, mostly because of the effects that it could have on everybody. And I still think that this newfound friendship between Stephanie and Sarah is foreshadowing of something that may happen in the future. And I’m here for it.

Hopefully, this all plays out until after Ron leaves. I’d like to see how the new writers would handle the reveal and the fallout, and what the storyline could lead to. And, I’m still wondering if they changed any of Ron’s storylines and projections. 

10 hours ago, Bright Eyes said:

To sum up, the gays all suck, and not in the fun way.

Hate to say it, but sometimes I think that, if Leo is supposed to represent me, I’d rather not be represented. 

9 hours ago, soapfan770 said:

 

@AbcNbc247 I’m beginning to believe that this Body & Soul stuff was the final straw…we’ll probably see some offensive blatant Ken Corday parody in which is why RC was fired lol. 😂 

I feel sorry for the actor playing Javi having to kiss GR’s Leo lol. Since when is Leo a zaddy? 🤣

I thought so too, but how could they have let it play out for so long lol it’s been terrible from the very beginning, even when Abe was kidnapped and first started watching it. That’s why I wonder sometimes if whether or not there was something that prompted them to finally fire Ron. 

As for Leo, I don’t think Ron and co. see him as a zaddy. According to the way the storyline’s being written, he and Javi are contemporaries 😂😂

Even though the age gap is quite obvious. 

BTW, I just wanted to say that everything noted here about yesterday's Crummiest of the Crummy DAYS episodes was fulfilled when I watched the true drudgery last night! I join in wondering what happened that finally caused the show to rid themselves of the Carlivati menace.

 

3 hours ago, AbcNbc247 said:

And I still think that this newfound friendship between Stephanie and Sarah is foreshadowing of something that may happen in the future. And I’m here for it.

I think you're on to something here. 

3 hours ago, AbcNbc247 said:

 And, I’m still wondering if they changed any of Ron’s storylines and projections. 

In a way I kinda hope so!

3 hours ago, AbcNbc247 said:

Hate to say it, but sometimes I think that, if Leo is supposed to represent me, I’d rather not be represented. 

DAYS is supposedly the diversity soap. If this is diversity in 2025 we are all in a whole helluva lot of trouble.

3 hours ago, AbcNbc247 said:

 That’s why I wonder sometimes if whether or not there was something that prompted them to finally fire Ron. 

By this I take it that you are referring to something else beyond just B&S?

12 hours ago, soapfan770 said:

This Body & Soul crap is DREADFUL isn’t it?

It really is. I am dumbfounded by the fact that some of my posters in my FB soap group, actually like it, or at least they say they do. But, they also claim to like Leo, so I really don't know what they are smoking!!!

12 hours ago, soapfan770 said:

@AbcNbc247 I’m beginning to believe that this Body & Soul stuff was the final straw…we’ll probably see some offensive blatant Ken Corday parody in which is why RC was fired lol. 😂 

I definitely think this was in some way a final straw. To me it reads as a really bad dig at the genre.

12 hours ago, soapfan770 said:

And did Bonnie really do an elevator fall L.A. Law style? LOL.

Well, you know when they killed off Hattie's character Charlemagne, that is how they offed her &  it was clear that it was derivative & about Rosalind Chase's demise on that show.

3 hours ago, AbcNbc247 said:

I thought so too, but how could they have let it play out for so long lol it’s been terrible from the very beginning, even when Abe was kidnapped and first started watching it. That’s why I wonder sometimes if whether or not there was something that prompted them to finally fire Ron.

He probably wanted to end DAYS as we know it and morph the entire show into B&S (but still under the name of DAYS).

5 minutes ago, Khan said:

He probably wanted to end DAYS as we know it and morph the entire show into B&S (but still under the name of DAYS).

Would not surprise me, or launch Body & Soul as a Peacock series.

3 minutes ago, Liberty City said:

Would not surprise me, or launch Body & Soul as a Peacock series.

God give me strength, lol!

13 hours ago, Bright Eyes said:

To pivot, for Paula Cwikly it'll be over 22 years since she was last headwriter. Is that the longest time between stints for a headwriter returning to front the same show again?

I think so? I'd wager the thirteen year break from AMC for Lorraine Broderick rivaled it.

1 minute ago, Khan said:

God give me strength, lol!

Well, let's be thankful that isn't happening.

7 minutes ago, Liberty City said:

Well, let's be thankful that isn't happening.

Yes, let's, lol!

I mean, just the THOUGHT of spinning off B&S as an actual show....

2 minutes ago, Khan said:

I mean, just the THOUGHT of spinning off B&S as an actual show....

It's horrific. Truly horrific.... three more months and it should be done.

15 minutes ago, Khan said:

Yes, let's, lol!

I mean, just the THOUGHT of spinning off B&S as an actual show....

1/3 of the B&S cast is out of commission between Chanel, Hattie, and Bonnie.  Can you imagine if Y&R lost Nikki, Phyllis, and Sharon, all in the same month? 

Speaking of which, why is The Spectator running a gossip column based only on a streaming soap opera?  Jack really needs to take back control and focus the paper on more pressing concerns.

1 hour ago, Contessa Donatella said:

By this I take it that you are referring to something else beyond just B&S?

Yeah. 

It's purely speculation on my part but I can't help but wonder. How would it have taken them so long to see how lousy B&S and Ron's writing in general could be?

I even wondered if he was attempting a suicide mission.

1 hour ago, Khan said:

He probably wanted to end DAYS as we know it and morph the entire show into B&S (but still under the name of DAYS).

As a big F U to the fans? 😂😂

Edited January 21Jan 21 by AbcNbc247

29 minutes ago, AbcNbc247 said:

It's purely speculation on my part but I can't help but wonder. How would it have taken them so long to see how lousy B&S and Ron's writing in general could be?

I even wondered if he was attempting a suicide mission.

I completely get why you wonder about this. But, as to the second part, why would he sabotage himself rather than just quit? I suppose it could be a thing, though. I love, and admire, Michele Val Jean but I continue to have these lingering doubts about his inclusion even as a BDW on BTG. I hope I'm wrong. 

7 minutes ago, Contessa Donatella said:

I completely get why you wonder about this. But, as to the second part, why would he sabotage himself rather than just quit? 

I was thinking that it goes back to the strike, and what was written while he wasn't there. He clearly wasn't a fan of a lot of it (Abigail coming back, Bobby-Everett, Alex/Kristen, The Janel baby)

And we all know how he gets when things don't go his way; he gets very lazy, he gets very petty. I couldn't help but wonder, 'suicide mission' lol