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I am so out of the loop with the show I didn't even know he was her brother. All this family and Laura still feels irrelevant to me. 

Reading his comments about how he was so grateful for the job due to health insurance reminds me of what a fickle business this is. Back in the '80s and early '90s MEK was hot property, even if he never really broke through in films and primetime. Now he needs Valentini's charity. I don't begrudge him (I know he's had a hard time) as much as I marvel as how few actors seem to make it last.

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I'm happy for him and I don't really have an issue with Martin as a recurring player, but this just feels like more of FV, CVE, etc. restoring everything to their vaguely passable factory settings for the show. Isn't Cyrus back again for no reason?

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Now all we are missing is Orbecht. Since all the supporting/side characters have now come back with the New/Old Writers in charge. 

 

That said...I hope this leads to more story for both Laura and Lucy. 

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5 minutes ago, DRW50 said:

I am so out of the loop with the show I didn't even know he was her brother. All this family and Laura still feels irrelevant to me. 

I don't think she's irrelevant as she's been so central for a number of years now (one of the few things this regime got right and only because FV's numerous attempts to marginalize her or drop her to recurring were pushed back by the audience), but I do think she's barely been visible this year for whatever reason. Some of it may be Genie's vacation time or family, part of it is the creative strife. And when she was there they had her in the worst possible story (the Heather mess). It makes me glad the kids are back.

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5 minutes ago, Vee said:

I don't think she's irrelevant as she's been so central for a number of years now (one of the few things this regime got right and only because FV's numerous attempts to marginalize her or drop her to recurring were pushed back by the audience), but I do think she's barely been visible this year for whatever reason. Some of it may be Genie's vacation time or family, part of it is the creative strife. And when she was there they had her in the worst possible story (the Heather mess). It makes me glad the kids are back.

For me there is a longstanding problem with Laura in that even when she is given story, I don't feel she has a great deal of inner life or drive. It was one of the reasons I found her late '90s return so underwhelming. But that's just a me thing.

5 minutes ago, Taoboi said:

Now all we are missing is Orbecht. Since all the supporting/side characters have now come back with the New/Old Writers in charge. 

 

That said...I hope this leads to more story for both Laura and Lucy. 

Actually I would love it if we got GatiTweets, Liesl, back with us! I think she is an excellent actress & after all, she was REALLY the one who saved Willow's life. Not Drew. Plus, she barged directly ahead, ignoring Nina, and said to Willow, "We are family. I am here for you. Now." And, that appealed to Willow & got past her stubbornness about her new mom she was not at all keen on, at that time. 

Marty, I love. I don't even care about the accent, yes, or no, either way. 

Cyrus, no use for him, even though I get that Jeff Kober is a find. 

Also, the romance of Martin & Lucy was terribly awfully delish. We could easily do that again. 

 

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More like Laura's invented retcon family. At least Cyrus is interesting. I find Martin pointless other than being able to claim another AMC star.

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Cyrus is boring as hell to me.

I think sometimes Laura has an inner life in recent years. Other times she, like many characters, Is at the whim of plot. And I still have never totally bought the relationship with Kevin, which was FV grafting a cheap (recurring) C-player onto her because she insisted upon a new love interest and he couldn't be bothered to make a new contractual investment in a veteran whose power he already clearly resented. It's worked out because Genie and JL get along, because they've generated a lot of story with Kevin and Ryan and because they have a real fanbase, but it still feels artificial and pat to me.

I would love to see the coming-out scenes with Aiden that PM's team apparently wrote and/or shot for her in the spring that supposedly got cut.

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It should be Rick and Lesley. Maybe they could finally undo the horrible story of Rick's return and exit in 2002, and making Scott his killer in 2007. They have so many horrible stories to undo though, no doubt that one probably gets lost in the shuffle.

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2 hours ago, Jdee43 said:

It should be Rick and Lesley. Maybe they could finally undo the horrible story of Rick's return and exit in 2002, and making Scott his killer in 2007. They have so many horrible stories to undo though, no doubt that one probably gets lost in the shuffle.

Rick is Dead Dead unfortunatley

Lesley well Denise Alexander a few years back was taking care of a sick loved one and that was keeping her busy

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7 hours ago, Contessa Donatella said:

Actually I would love it if we got GatiTweets, Liesl, back with us! I think she is an excellent actress & after all, she was REALLY the one who saved Willow's life. Not Drew. Plus, she barged directly ahead, ignoring Nina, and said to Willow, "We are family. I am here for you. Now." And, that appealed to Willow & got past her stubbornness about her new mom she was not at all keen on, at that time. 

Marty, I love. I don't even care about the accent, yes, or no, either way. 

Cyrus, no use for him, even though I get that Jeff Kober is a find. 

Also, the romance of Martin & Lucy was terribly awfully delish. We could easily do that again. 

 

Same. I loved me some Liesl. 

 

Same for Martin but I love MEK anyway I can get him...and he gave more story to Lucy so I was down for that and his growing bond to Laura.

 

Cyrus...now I could take or leave though I loved the actor in BUFFY and his other horror related roles. I just don't want to hear everyone here do the complaints. 

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