I don’t see how DAYS can ever get a new writer with their low budget and wackadoo advance 7 month taping schedule.

On 6/4/2024 at 11:26 AM, Matt Powers said:

I don’t see how DAYS can ever get a new writer with their low budget and wackadoo advance 7 month taping schedule.

I can't see any writer wanting to work that schedule.

The answer to this topic has been sitting in front of my eyes the whole time.

2 hours ago, Maxim said:

The answer to this topic has been sitting in front of my eyes the whole time.

Mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

I will say it until it happens! We need a big earthquake or something! Maybe a killer. A big umbrella story where people actually die. Even a massive tsunami. Kill people, bring some together. They have the budget! Maybe instead of a remote they can do it.

On 5/30/2024 at 4:51 AM, Soapsuds said:

Discuss

I say scrap all the stories and start from scratch.

Get rid of a lot of useless characters.

 

On 5/31/2024 at 9:36 AM, Maxim said:

I don't agree with the sentiment that these remaining soaps can't be saved and they should be wiped out to start new with the Gates and different shows in their place.

The power of soap operas is that they can go for years and years and a lot of people who have watched back when they loved the show, still do... out of sheer melancholy or just habit. So, wiping all these shows and starting 4 new ones will be a big failure in my book. There won't be that much new viewers willing to start and engage with 4 different new soaps at the same time. At least at this point in the game. 

Of course these old soap operas can be saved... some of the historic ones have gone for more than 6 decades and there were plenty of moments where the scripts were bad and the show was tanking BUT were resurrected by a new HW, producer and etc.

And I still believe a show with Bold's cast can be wonderful if just given the chance. I will say this, not wanting to trigger anyone, but for example... someone like Patrick Mulcahey could head-write it, if Bradley is willing to step out. Patrick understand women and women's psyche... and Bold is women centered show and has always been. And yes, I said - SOMEONE like... not necessary Patrick... but someone who understands the material. And Bradley does not understand women and their souls and inner worlds. 

Now if I have to say the cosmetics and the bits and pieces of what should be done... without change of HW... if that is the question... THEN. 

1. Bold should get back to the roots of fashion - there should be more fashion battles, fashion feuds and etc. The fashion industry is full of intrigue and scandals in real life. They can take their inspiration from real life events. 

2. New script writers for better dialogue and substance. If Bradley is not going to step out... at least we need some fresh new dialogue writers that can make the show pop and sound better. At this point the dialogue is repetitive at best and... absurd and comical at worst. We have weeks of episodes in which the same dialogue is repeated for 5 days straight. I am not exaggerating. If I have to hear one more time Sheila is Finn's birth mother, I will start screaming. 

3. More diverse background characters, diverse body-types and GAY main characters, that can actually... - BRING a lot of new viewers. I strongly believe that. There are franchises that completely rely on the gay community for viewership. It's out of this world STUPID to have a show about the fashion world and no GAY LEAD. It's 2024, not the 1950s.

4. Bradley needs to focus on bringing justice to characters that have been living in this show without karma for years.  For example... I would love to see Brooke in complete ruins and someone make her pay for everything she did - and not just to cry for weeks and then everyone forgives her. She needs to live what she made Stephanie live through - she needs to lose her whole family and existence. I want a powerful storyline like that. And THEN... bring her back slowly. I would even do a storyline in which Brooke actually loses Ridge to someone young, fresh and more sexy than her... and then in... hate and spite... kill Ridge. I would end the Ridge era with Brooke killing him. It would be iconic. She would feel sorry for this for years to come... but it would be better than the drivel we are getting now.  And this leads me to point 5.

5. Characters like Ridge... Liam... even Eric... I will cut and their replacements or even their absence will bring a breath of fresh air.

6. We need a strong matriarch manipulator-bitch. And this is not Brooke! Will never be Brooke. KKL is my favorite, you all know that, but Brooke is not the matriarch of Bold. Bold has never survived past losing it's original HBIC. I can't believe Bradley hasn't created a new one already. It is showing in the way the show is floating... into nothingness.

7. And this is the the point I will regret saying but - Bradley should stick to what he CAN write - and that is sex scandals with a twist. At least they kept some viewers entertained in the past. Bold needs to lighten up again and be the show it was in 1999 to 2005 - fun, sexy, taboo, hilarious, badly written, but addictive. What I am saying is - Bradley stop thinking you can tell a serious deep storyline about dying - you can't. Stop trying to tell a story about drugs and mints and consent - you can't write it. Stop trying to re-deem absurd characters.

8. No more cartoon network villains. I'm sorry but these past years, I have overeaten on Sheila laughing and changing Brooke's bottles, Sheila shooting her son and Steffy, just because..., Deacon googling Sugar, toes, coming back from the dead, smiling, laughing... I know what you did last summer type of knife stalking scenes. I am done with the low budged slasher move storylines. I AM DONE.

9. The storylines should not come and go in a chaotic senseless order. What I mean - sometimes he writes 3-4 episodes with Luna, then Luna disappears for 2 weeks, then she is back again crying... same with all the other storylines... This random direction-change makes me not want to watch the next episode. I want to see the storyline I am watching for more than 3-4 episodes just to then WAIT weeks. This is tired and lazy and stupid. 

10. Bring back TAYLOR F-cking Forrester.  @Jeff

 

 

If starting a new soap or wiping the slate TOTALLY clean were off the table

Similar to @Soapsuds I would..

-Eighty six Brad Bell, get a head writer who hasn't been recyed through soaps. 

-completely write out Liam/Hope/Steffy/Finn 

-get rid of usess characters like Wyatt, Katie, Donna etc

-start a new fued between Brooke and a strong older matriarch of a new family.

-Bring Lauren over to resurrect her fued with Sheila in an actual concrete storyline

-re-explore Justin taking over Spencer Publications to open the door for a strong black villain.

(otherwise send send Dollar Bill & Sheila to Y&R)

 

 

Edited June 11, 20241 yr by Planet Soap

10 hours ago, Planet Soap said:

 

If starting a new soap or wiping the slate TOTALLY clean were off the table

Similar to @Soapsuds I would..

-Eighty six Brad Bell, get a head writer who hasn't been recyed through soaps. 

-completely write out Liam/Hope/Steffy/Finn 

-get rid of usess characters like Wyatt, Katie, Donna etc

-start a new fued between Brooke and a strong older matriarch of a new family.

-Bring Lauren over to resurrect her fued with Sheila in an actual concrete storyline

-re-explore Justin taking over Spencer Publications to open the door for a strong black villain.

(otherwise send send Dollar Bill & Sheila to Y&R)

 

 

Steffy is the star of the show. Why write her out?

The show is so claustrophobic now. The cast , the sets, nothing feels like this show is set in LA.

The young cast is saddled with marriage and babies.

This show continues to treat it's black characters like afterthoughts which has been a problem for decades.

 

On 6/11/2024 at 9:32 AM, Boldsoaps said:

Steffy is the star of the show. Why write her out?

those 3 characters: Liam, Hope, Steffy are tired. If Steffy is to stay let's explore story lines with her not involving Liam hope or any other tired romance plot.

On 6/16/2024 at 7:38 PM, Planet Soap said:

those 3 characters: Liam, Hope, Steffy are tired. If Steffy is to stay let's explore story lines with her not involving Liam hope or any other tired romance plot.

All of this! She needs something else to do!

5 hours ago, SteelCity said:

All of this! She needs something else to do!

Truth. The whole show needs something else to do. B&B has no storyline variety, it's all romance. At least on GH and days you get that with some corporate intrigue, some spy drama, crime stories, medical stories etc, no matter how poorly written. 

On 6/25/2024 at 7:29 PM, Planet Soap said:

Truth. The whole show needs something else to do. B&B has no storyline variety, it's all romance. At least on GH and days you get that with some corporate intrigue, some spy drama, crime stories, medical stories etc, no matter how poorly written. 

There really is no variety. There's never a B-story and if there is is just as overwrought and recycled. They need a big shake up!

We all know what can save the show and that is if Bradley some day decides to rest from writing his drivel and just gives someone else an opportunity. I don't want to sound cynical, but I think even some amateurs on the internet could write the show better at this point. There are so many talented people just sitting in the shadows. 

I really don't see how anyone else can out-bottom Bradley's bottom he hit with the last few years. I only see UP.

So every day I will light a candle in the hope that Bradley may want to give the show to someone else. And... isn't he bored with it at this point? Brooke is not anymore at an age where she can pregnant and she has already slept with all the men in law, there isn't anything for Bradley to write anymore. So... give it up, sweetheart. We will remember you with warm feelings.

 

 

On 6/27/2024 at 7:07 AM, SteelCity said:

There really is no variety. There's never a B-story and if there is is just as overwrought and recycled. They need a big shake up!

I've been re-watching 2001 episodes as they're being uploaded on the B&B YouTube Channel and they're right in the middle of the Morgan DeWitt storyline. Having seen it before, I know where it's going, but I'm still hooked. 

What I noticed right away is:

1. The show had three storylines going, an A, B, and C storyline, and as one ends, the next ramps up. This is consistent and obvious in every single episode. These storylines stand on their own from each other, and then in certain episodes, characters will interact and bring some of storyline A into storyline B or C.

2. Sally Spectra was the Greek Chorus of the show. We've all known that Darlene Conley was an incredibly important part of the show and added humour, melodrama, glitz and style that nobody can touch. But the character of Sally was also a Greek Chorus. She weaves in and out of scenes, summarizing what's gone on, gets different character perspectives, and delivers what the audience is often thinking. The show needs that. 

3. Brooke was being written as the second coming of Stephanie with how she despised Amber Moore and that would have been a good route for the character to mature as KKL herself aged. After 2003 or so, Brad veered off course and made Brooke hypersexualized which doesn't serve the same narrative function 20 years later where Brooke now feels a bit pointless and written into a corner. KKL is capable of the material and Brooke needs maturing.

4. The show was not all about romance. The characters had jobs, the fashion shows were a huge part of quarterly storytelling, they went out at night, they went out during the day. They had lunch. They went for coffee. LA felt much more real.

5. Ridge and Brooke function better apart. In 2001, Ridge is happily (?) married with Taylor and Brooke is happily married to Thorne. Both characters function well being in each other's orbits while not being romantically involved. 

6. The scenes were much longer. This is a problem with every show, but given B&B is 30 minutes, it's noticeable how much they packed into each episode, whereas now 30 minutes feels like much of it is filler. 

On 6/16/2024 at 7:38 PM, Planet Soap said:

those 3 characters: Liam, Hope, Steffy are tired. If Steffy is to stay let's explore story lines with her not involving Liam hope or any other tired romance plot.

Steffy doesn’t need to be written out, but they need to stop writing her so sanctimonious and judge-mental towards Hope and Brooke all the time and have her learn to become self aware of herself and own up to her own questionable decisions in the past…Bradley is making her Stephanie 2.0 and it’s not cute.