1 hour ago, titan1978 said:

It very well could have been Frons.  I always suspected it was JFP because she was the one that tried to stop Genie from taking the summer off which lead to her leaving the show.  Even though Tony was also going to be gone for the same amount of time.  This was after Guza and Pratt were installed as HW and given their producer credits.  I just always chalked it up to another example of JFP not being willing to work with a woman performers needs and wants like she clearly did with the men.

I remember that too, and I'm sure she was involved. But if Frons and Guza had wanted her around it would've happened - everything came from Frons back then.

 

On 2/4/2023 at 9:37 AM, titan1978 said:

It very well could have been Frons.  I always suspected it was JFP because she was the one that tried to stop Genie from taking the summer off which lead to her leaving the show.  Even though Tony was also going to be gone for the same amount of time.  This was after Guza and Pratt were installed as HW and given their producer credits.  I just always chalked it up to another example of JFP not being willing to work with a woman performers needs and wants like she clearly did with the men.

I always find it funny that Geneie Francis (based on what I've read) was treated so disposably despite being apart of the most celebrated supercouple on soaps. I guess she didn't have as much leveraging power in negotiations because she wasn't made to be first female lead in her later runs compared to say Susan Lucci on AMC, Diedre Hall on DOOL or even the Carlys on GH.

Likewise, based on what I've read, if not for Tony Geary's storyline interfearences --- could Luke & Laura have been a more stable and long lasting pairing without Luke becoming increasingly dark as a charachter?

90s family man Luke is a great partner for Laura, otherwise cynical Luke is perfect for Tracy. 

Edited February 6, 20232 yr by ironlion

2 minutes ago, ironlion said:

I always find it funny that Geneie Francis (based on what I've read) was treated so disposably despite being apart of the most celebrated supercouple on soaps. I guess she didnt have as much leveraging power in negotiations because she wasnt made to be first female lead in her later runs compared to say Susan Lucci on AMC, Diedre Hall on DOOL or even the Carlys on GH.

Likewise, based on what I've read, if not Tony Geary's storyline interfearences could Luke & Laura have been a more stable and long lasting pairing without Luke becoming increasingly dark as a charachter. 

90s family man Luke is a great partner for Laura, otherwise cynical Luke is perfect for Tracy. 

I think it's interesting that people who are supposedly in the know on these things say that back in the day Tony was miserable at GH & Genie was very unhappy at GH. Now both are said to be happy. 

On 1/28/2023 at 1:10 PM, Mitch64 said:

John Dixon faking his death to frame James Stenbeck...but unfortunately his love obsession, Dee Stewart was put on trial for it.  It was not the shows best era as the Dobson's had stripped the show of its base (Wagner quit, McLaughlin was on recurring and the Hughes were obscured) but it was a good fun plot (if you overlooked the fact that Dee was being charged with no corpse being produced.) Margo and Tom broke off because of it, even as she was preggers with his kid and John revealing himself in court was a great soap moment!  The only problem was that Dee was being played by Vicki Dawson who was a weak recast.

 

On 1/28/2023 at 1:10 PM, Mitch64 said:

John Dixon faking his death to frame James Stenbeck...but unfortunately his love obsession, Dee Stewart was put on trial for it.  It was not the shows best era as the Dobson's had stripped the show of its base (Wagner quit, McLaughlin was on recurring and the Hughes were obscured) but it was a good fun plot (if you overlooked the fact that Dee was being charged with no corpse being produced.) Margo and Tom broke off because of it, even as she was preggers with his kid and John revealing himself in court was a great soap moment!  The only problem was that Dee was being played by Vicki Dawson who was a weak recast.

That scene where John taunts James is ICONIC

On 1/27/2023 at 3:48 AM, victoria foxton said:

Even as a 12-year-old kid i knew Marlena would return down the line. I remember getting goose bumps. During the Jarlena reunion scenes at the docks. Marlena looked great for a dead woman. Even though she had been wearing the same outfit for weeks. But most importantly Jarlena still had it.

Thatt 2 or 3 week marlena back from the dead arc helped make Days #2 during those weeks in the ratings.  Had the show not insisted on bringing Wayne Northrop back and doing the 2 Roman's story...the rating increase might have stuck..imho

On 1/28/2023 at 1:21 PM, NothinButAttitude said:

I don't think it gets no better than Roger. As you pointed out, it rocked the entire canvas for years to come. Holly was greatly affected as she was conflicted for her love for Roger, yet feeling re-victimized and haunted by his return. Blake had her father back but still dealt with daddy issues, which trickled down into her chaotic relationships. Roger did tons of damage to the Spauldings (Alex, Alan, Alan Michael, Phillip, Nick), their surrogate family (Vanessa & Henry), and anyone else in their orbit (Fletcher & Beth). The man Ed hated the most was walking free, but Maureen (his beloved wife) didn't have the same venom for Roger. The Lewises would be sucked into the vortex of Roger with Mindy falling in bed with him. It would recur somewhat again when Roger's scion, Hart, bedded Dylan's girl, Julie. And poor Gilly would constantly be wedged in between the twisted games of Roger and Holly. 

Soap writers should literally have to study Roger's return if they are going to bring someone "back from the dead." The character needs to literally shake the canvas to the core and have a strong story arc too. 

What I loved about Roger's back from the dead story was that it proved that people behind the scenes could work together if motivated.

Pam long was figuring out what to do with Blake (introduced during the strike) plus rumor had itthe show was trying to get Zaslow to play a recast Alan.  Once it was pointed out he was known for playing Roger..Nancy Curlee gave the idea to Pam Long to bring Roger back from the dead.

Long and Calhoun did say they kept watching Rogers death scene to see if it was plausible and both concluded no one saw/heard Roger hit the ground nor saw him dead at the bottom.

I do know Curlee didn't like the Adam Malik arc nor the wedding arc so I'm guessing that was Long's idea...but it worked because Roger was a character that it made sense to do that with.