Trailer leaked yesterday, so Sony and Marvel have officially released it:

 

Doctor Octopus is back! He was by far one of my favourite villains from any comic book movie which is why I love Spiderman 2.   It's cool to see both DC and Marvel are exploring the multiverses at the same time. 

No Way Home will lead into Doctor Strange In The Multiverse of Madness  - which is of course directed by Sam Raimi who directed Sony’s initial Spiderman trilogy.

It seems to me that Marvel is generally very attentive to its viewers. They really realized what everyone was waiting for. It’s even hard to come up with anything better.🙂

RIP John Campea (SPOILERS):

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These appear to be real. Very happy to see the latter character

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 confirmed. I loved the Netflix show and will have to finish the final season. Hopefully this means they'll fold the Netflix shows into the MCU.

I see a lot of people gloating over these leaks on Twitter because they think Kevin Feige is going to cry, or whatever, but I mostly just feel bad for the fans who genuinely wanted to be surprised and now, a month or more in advance, will know everything, whether they want to or not. 

Charlie Cox's comments about not really wanting to play Daredevil anymore [I know he couldn't admit he was in the movie] make me wonder if he  may just pop up as Matt Murdock in this and possibly other places, and if they ever bring Daredevil back it will be with a new character.

Well, twitter isn't the real world. A lot of people either won't know or don't know much about the plot itself. I know I don't.

I mean, it's the worst kept secret anyway. The leaks for this movie have been so bad and regular, it's funny. 

1 hour ago, Vee said:

 

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 confirmed. I loved the Netflix show and will have to finish the final season. Hopefully this means they'll fold the Netflix shows into the MCU.

The Daredevil Netflix show was great and deserves a revival, but it would not be well-served on Disney+, which strays away from R-rated content. If it does get revived, hoping they place it on Hulu or something where they can really do that character and its its gritty NYC setting justice.

If Deadpool 3 succeeds as an R-rated MCU film in a few years, I hope that bodes well for Daredevil and the Marvel Netflix shows/characters getting their proper roll-out in the MCU.  

 

1 hour ago, DRW50 said:

I see a lot of people gloating over these leaks on Twitter because they think Kevin Feige is going to cry, or whatever, but I mostly just feel bad for the fans who genuinely wanted to be surprised and now, a month or more in advance, will know everything, whether they want to or not. 

 

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Charlie Cox's comments about not really wanting to play Daredevil anymore [I know he couldn't admit he was in the movie] make me wonder if he  may just pop up as Matt Murdock in this and possibly other places, and if they ever bring Daredevil back it will be with a new character.

 

 

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There is speculation that Charlie Cox will pop up again as Matt Murdock in the upcoming She-Hulk and Echo shows on Disney+ 

 

Edited November 9, 20214 yr by BetterForgotten

 

Even though much of it was leaked, it’s probably the best live action Spider-Man related movie I’ve ever seen. The entire theater went nuts throughout so much of it. And that was a great ending to set up Peter Parker and Spider-Man’s next chapter.

Edited December 18, 20213 yr by BetterForgotten

Well I go out of my way to avoid spoilers for things I want to see (every Marvel show on Disney Plus, the majority of the post above) because I want to see it myself.  GAME OF THRONES Red Wedding comes to mind. I didn't start binging it until around Season 7. And WAS NEVER SPOILED. And trust there were moments. Knowing would have taken away from it. Glad to not know. But critics were a different breed back then.

 

Now have I've seen a few thing?  Yes. But mostly because critics act like they cannot write in a way that DOES NOT have some form of a spoiler to it...even if said spoiler has nothing to do with said review. 

 

It's a shame that there are some people out there just spoiling it for the sake of doing so. Need to get some lives for sure. Cuz that...is just tragic.

Box Office: ‘Spider-Man: No Way Home’ Debuts to Jaw-Dropping $253 Million

On 12/18/2021 at 4:28 AM, BetterForgotten said:

Even though much of it was leaked, it’s probably the best live action Spider-Man related movie I’ve ever seen. The entire theater went nuts throughout so much of it. And that was a great ending to set up Peter Parker and Spider-Man’s next chapter.

Agreed. That delivered in a major way, more than I had expected bc I am not super susceptible to fan service without real weight and purpose. This had that and is probably the most emotional Marvel film for me besides the Infinity War/Endgame duology.

Intentional from the outset of these films or not - I have no idea - they very cleverly recast the entire Spider-Man MCU series thus far as an origin story for Peter Parker. I knew they would lean on the trappings of the controversial One More Day storyline from the comics, and I suspected what they would do at the end, but it wasn't horrifically insulting or damaging to the characters here in the way that it was in the comics after around 20+ years of marriage and evolution.

To give it context for people who don't know about this - in the comics, in the 2000s under J. Michael Straczynski's largely excellent run on the book, Peter had it all: Mary Jane, the love and respect of the Marvel superhero world. He lived in Stark Tower with his family as well as his new family - the Brian Michael Bendis-era Avengers - and was buddies with Wolverine, Iron Man, Cap, etc. His Aunt May became Logan's BFF and even had a romance with Jarvis, the Avengers' butler. It was all taken away when Peter voluntarily unmasked as part of the "Civil War" storyline, following Tony Stark's lead; the elderly Aunt May was left comatose and dying by an assassin's bullet, and Peter and MJ jointly made the (IMO) reckless and selfish choice of bargaining with Mephisto to save May's life by erasing his marriage, their life together for decades and most people's knowledge of his identity. This storyline, One More Day, was done as part of an editorial initiative: Creators at Marvel had long resented Stan Lee mandating that Peter and MJ be married off in the 1980s, feeling it was a betrayal of the traditional 'lovable loser' Peter of the '60s, and when new editors came to power they rebooted the franchise with this storyline - leaving Peter a swinging bachelor again dealing with more young adult problems. While Peter and Mary Jane are back together now about 15 years later, the "One More Day" storyline has never been fully undone and remains deeply controversial to despised to this day.

Anyway, this movie was different. Decades of continuity and character are not being regressed, and here the MCU trappings of glamorous superhero-dom that a lot of people seemed to resent for this Spidey - the friendship with Iron Man, the Stark gadgets, etc. - are identical to those of the New Avengers era of the 2000s, just before the bomb dropped on Peter's identity in Civil War. And now they're all gone, and it is back to basics. The ending, with Peter simply alone, starting over again in a small apartment with a police scanner app - and shockingly, the original classic costume in bright colors, which I did not expect - was very humble and moving, and felt oddly very appropriate to the moment we're living in now, for a lot of reasons. But still hopeful and not nihilistic or depressing.

Andrew Garfield was incredible in his return. I always liked his movies more than most people, and I felt Amazing Spider-Man 2 was especially unfairly slated. I hope he returns to making bigger films soon, something he seems to have intentionally shied away from post-Spidey; he's so talented. Tobey Maguire was very sweet and humble and simply embodied the classical archetype; there were a lot of rumors about BTS machinations trying to get him onboard vs. his ego, and I don't know what's true or not - I wondered if it was going to turn into a Towering Inferno-esque situation, where Steve McQueen demanded he and Paul Newman have the same amount of lines. (Maybe they did here, I don't know!) Either way, he did very well. Willem Dafoe was Willem Dafoe at his usual best, but all the returning villains were excellent and got good closure. I especially enjoyed Jamie Foxx getting to do his thing without CGI.

Marisa Tomei's final scene was absolutely heartbreaking and very hard to watch. She never got quite enough to do in these movies but she made it count this time. She's grown into such an incredible talent. She was also great with Willem Dafoe. And the three kids, as always, were wonderful. I hope we get to see MJ and Ned return eventually.

Side note: I hadn't realized that in Strange's absence during the blip, Wong is now Sorcerer Supreme. Makes sense!

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Extremely pleased about the Daredevil cameo. I loved that they simply established that he and the other Netflix street-level heroes are in our same MCU, not another universe and have been here all along. Those actors and shows were very good in their initial seasons at least, and as a major DD fan I was very, very happy and hope we'll be seeing him again soon, along with Krysten Ritter as Jessica Jones and most definitely Mike Colter as Luke Cage.

 

Wow, the opening tally has surpassed Avengers Infinity War, and is just behind Avengers Endgame.

‘Spider-Man: No Way Home’ Officially Opens to $260 Million, Second-Biggest Box Office Debut in History