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Dallas Discussion Thread

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Patrick coming back really ruined things for good. I was never invested in the Jenna/Charlie/Naldo mess either. If Morgan Fairchild had returned in the role, I may have given a crap.

It's ironic Pam goes out in a flaming car crash after a drunken Sue Ellen was constantly getting into wrecks. I noticed Patrick strangely wants to play up the Bobby & April love story at fan events.....when in reality the fans only cared about Bobby & Pam.

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On 5/18/2026 at 7:08 PM, SoapDope78 said:

the "Boys Club" mentality and threw the women under the bus.

It was a pattern across all three CBS primetime soaps when the budget issues began to salary dump the long-time (as in those who were part of the original cast or introduced in the first two seasons) female cast members. Dallas was the worst offender because by the final season no long-time female cast members were left in the main cast.

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8 hours ago, kalbir said:

It was a pattern across all three CBS primetime soaps when the budget issues began to salary dump the long-time (as in those who were part of the original cast or introduced in the first two seasons) female cast members. Dallas was the worst offender because by the final season no long-time female cast members were left in the main cast.

Those final years of Dallas are awful. I don't think I have watched an entire episode from them in 30 years. I always stop after Victoria departs.

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11 hours ago, kalbir said:

Dallas was the worst offender because by the final season no long-time female cast members were left in the main cast.

Yep. By the final season, it was just J.R., Bobby, Cliff, James and a bunch of rejects from "In the Heat of the Night."

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1 hour ago, Khan said:

Yep. By the final season, it was just J.R., Bobby, Cliff, James and a bunch of rejects from "In the Heat of the Night."

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8 hours ago, SoapDope78 said:

Those final years of Dallas are awful. I don't think I have watched an entire episode from them in 30 years. I always stop after Victoria departs.

Dallas was effectively over with Sue Ellen departure. The final two seasons were a waste of time.

4 hours ago, Khan said:

Yep. By the final season, it was just J.R., Bobby, Cliff, James and a bunch of rejects from "In the Heat of the Night."

Hahaha, that's funny.

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I don't see anything wrong with Dallas and the guy's network. One of the soaps needed to be geared toward the male audience.

And the truth was that the women weren't the main focus of the show.

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2 hours ago, Soaplovers said:

I don't see anything wrong with Dallas and the guy's network. One of the soaps needed to be geared toward the male audience.

And the truth was that the women weren't the main focus of the show.

Dallas was the most male-focused of the 1980s primetime soaps and I think it was because Dallas at its heart and roots was a western. When you view Dallas through today's standards, the masculine energy is quite off-putting.

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11 minutes ago, kalbir said:

Dallas was the most male-focused of the 1980s primetime soaps and I think it was because Dallas at its heart and roots was a western. When you view Dallas through today's standards, the masculine energy is quite off-putting.

Which is interesting considering David Jacobs wanted to originally kill off Bobby and have a Pam vs JR dynamic on the show. That they couldn't achieve that once Bobby was finally killed off is a testament to how the show had just delved into the "JR Show" and couldn't ever have him not win. Seriously - season nine as full out blown out war between Pam and JR could've been epic if they had actually dared to go for it - but they were too scared to change the dynamics of the show. Then they went and brought Bobby back (erasing an entire season), Victoria bolted and they kept bringing in replacement characters to keep up the dynamic they had in their head.

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11 hours ago, SoapDope78 said:

I always stop after Victoria departs.

7 minutes ago, te. said:

David Jacobs wanted to originally kill off Bobby and have a Pam vs JR dynamic on the show.

I'm with @SoapDope78 : Once Victoria Principal left in a ball of flames, I couldn't find anything of value left in the show. I pretty much washed my hands of it.

As @te. noted, the show had a couple of REALLY good opportunities to reboot itself: When Patrick Duffy left in 1985, any writer with any sense would've pivoted to the original concept of the show by pitting JR Ewing & Pam Barnes against one another fully. And they certainly had the groundwork to do that (Bobby's will naming Pam as the executor of his estate and the trustee of Christopher's Ewing Oil stock). They completely dropped the ball on that. THEN, when Patrick Duffy came back & Victoria was still on the show, they had yet opportunity to reset, and they bungled that up too. Once Victoria was gone, ppfffft --- the show was essentially a dinosaur lumbering along a few more miserable seasons.

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Another thing that degraded the later seasons of Dallas and Knots was they switched the type of film and equipment they used and it made both shows look cheap and low budget. Those early years had beautiful cinematography.

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