November 25, 201213 yr Author Member Squash it? Attempts at coolness in the 90s were laughably bad at times. LOL, I still hear that used from time to time. And for the record, people were saying "squash it" before this episode!
November 25, 201213 yr Author Member IIRC, Mother Winslow talked to her afterward, and told her how she was the first AA in her town to receive a public library card after walking there everyday and refusing to give up. I was actually surprised by how sweet Mother Winslow was. I was used to Rosetta LeNoire as Nell's bitchy mother, Mama Maybelle on GAB. I'm glad that RL continues to get the respect she deserves in the theatre community.
December 5, 201213 yr Member I don't think it was a vse but i loved the maude episode about Walter being a slum lord. Did the shows "Mommies" and "The Torkelsons" have VSEs?
December 5, 201213 yr Author Member Oh gosh, every episode of The Torkelsons felt like a VSE. That show often felt like you were watching a play.
December 5, 201213 yr Member I don't think it was a vse but i loved the maude episode about Walter being a slum lord. Did the shows "Mommies" and "The Torkelsons" have VSEs? Weren't The Mommies just a poor man's version of Roseanne X 2 ?
December 6, 201213 yr Member Oh gosh, every episode of The Torkelsons felt like a VSE. That show often felt like you were watching a play. Which episode of the Torkelsons had the mother buying the daughter a dress for prom from a thrift shop, only to have the original owner embarrass her by telling everyone that the dress was hers?
December 6, 201213 yr Author Member Which episode of the Torkelsons had the mother buying the daughter a dress for prom from a thrift shop, only to have the original owner embarrass her by telling everyone that the dress was hers? Are you a mind reader? This is EXACTLY the episode I was thinking of last night but didn't feel like explaining it yet again on this board. I don't remember the ep name, but the thrift store dress had a big stain on it and the mom said she could make her a silk cabbage rose to cover it. At the dance, the dress' bitchy original owner was jealous of Dorothy Ann and her date and yelled in front of everyone that Dorothy's dress was a thrift store dress that her clumsy little brother had spilled something on. Then she ripped off the silk cabbage rose to reveal the stain. Dorothy Jane was mortified. Her date comforted and reassured her, then covered the stain with his hand and they continued to slow dance away.
December 6, 201213 yr Member Are you a mind reader? This is EXACTLY the episode I was thinking of last night but didn't feel like explaining it yet again on this board. I don't remember the ep name, but the thrift store dress had a big stain on it and the mom said she could make her a silk cabbage rose to cover it. At the dance, the dress' bitchy original owner was jealous of Dorothy Ann and her date and yelled in front of everyone that Dorothy's dress was a thrift store dress that her clumsy little brother had spilled something on. Then she ripped off the silk cabbage rose to reveal the stain. Dorothy Jane was mortified. Her date comforted and reassured her, then covered the stain with his hand and they continued to slow dance away. YES!!! That's always the very first episode I think about when this show crosses my mind. I just found it too! It's called The Cotillion. The whole thing is posted. This is part one.
December 6, 201213 yr Author Member Awesome, I haven't seen this since it first aired! Thanks for sharing!
December 6, 201213 yr Member Are you a mind reader? This is EXACTLY the episode I was thinking of last night but didn't feel like explaining it yet again on this board. I don't remember the ep name, but the thrift store dress had a big stain on it and the mom said she could make her a silk cabbage rose to cover it. At the dance, the dress' bitchy original owner was jealous of Dorothy Ann and her date and yelled in front of everyone that Dorothy's dress was a thrift store dress that her clumsy little brother had spilled something on. Then she ripped off the silk cabbage rose to reveal the stain. Dorothy Jane was mortified. Her date comforted and reassured her, then covered the stain with his hand and they continued to slow dance away. Why did they never rerun this show in the late 90s??
December 6, 201213 yr Author Member The Torkelsons/Almost Home reran on The Disney Channel back then, but this was when TDC was still a "premium" channel on my carrier. I remember flipping past the show a couple times when I was at my aunt and uncle's.
December 6, 201213 yr Member Aww...yeah, we didn't have Disney then. Since Roseanne was mentioned a little bit upthread, I gotta say. I love that this show handled "very special" topics without having to make them "very special" episodes. Especially in the early seasons. It was a LOT like early Good Times in that way, where they could cover serious topics and mix them in with the everyday comedy/drama of life. TV rarely does that.
December 6, 201213 yr Author Member You know, I think Roseanne and Good Times did that so masterfully because of the tone in which the shows were set from day one. It's much easier for characters straddling the poverty line to ease into the drama as the whole premise of these shows were built around a family's day to day struggles to keep on keepin on. Shows about rich people with rich people's problems just can't pull certain things off.
December 6, 201213 yr Member I'm amazed no one has mentioned Blossom yet. Blossom had VSEs? I know they had recurring themes (Anthony's alcoholism and Joey's abandonment issues with their mother), but I honestly don't remember any special episodes.
December 6, 201213 yr Member I swear to G-d, I said bolded in my head during the millisecond gap between your first and second sentences. But I guess "VSE" is a term more associated with situation comedies that decide to get all dramatical on us. How could I forget Jessie!? Yet another television depiction that had me terrified of AIDS. In one ep, he wakes up in a panic, drenched in night sweat before he goes to grab painful lesions on his back. It was awful. And the episode where the dad was doing the dishes, and when he got to Jessie's glass, he stared at it for a charged moment before guiltily throwing it in the garbage pail. Good point about VSEs being mostly associated with sitcoms, though one can apply it to dramas as well (i.e. Boston Public, another series whose entire existence was a VSE to the point where I stopped watching because I thought that David E. Kelley was purposely messing with the audience by not producing a single non-VSE). Was that Becca's dad or Jesse's dad that threw away that glass? I forgot, though I certainly will never forget Jesse snatching at his own body while wracked with pain.
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