Members JaneAusten Posted January 30, 2012 Members Share Posted January 30, 2012 This has nothing to do with homophobia. Carl has pointed out Sami spent a good part of 2 years crying and AS is an awful crier, probably because someone told her heroines cry even though Marlena never cried non stop in all her years as a heroine nor did Jennifer years back. I tend to disagree on CM looking like he.s acting although his scenes with Sami/AS are the least real to me. He's actually quite natural in his scenes with Marlena/DH and I enjoy the studf with EJ even if it can be borderline cartoonish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Eric83 Posted January 30, 2012 Members Share Posted January 30, 2012 Nobody said men shouldn't cry they are ujust saying Chandler Massey relies on crying to heighten emotional scenes. JESUS! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members JaneAusten Posted January 30, 2012 Members Share Posted January 30, 2012 I am sorry I don't buy that the directors told JJ to cry nonstop. He as an actor came to use it as a crutch. Tony Geary got as much heavy material as JJ and I did.t see his eyes turn red in every scene. If thats the only way you can emote, as all JJ does to emote is to cry, get watery eyes, or yell, that shows limited range.CM has more charisma and warmth on screen than JJ so I am not ready to put him in the same league yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members John Posted January 30, 2012 Members Share Posted January 30, 2012 Watched again. Dont see tears from Will. Just anger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members gtru1981 Posted January 30, 2012 Members Share Posted January 30, 2012 I actually have to dissagree with you. We are talking about Days, the same show that literally almost reuses the same script over and over again and the same plots over and over again. Chandler is given the material and told what to do by the directors and writers. They tell him to cry, he will cry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members JaneAusten Posted January 30, 2012 Members Share Posted January 30, 2012 Hmmm maybe or he's getting some bad advice from his colleagues Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members John Posted January 30, 2012 Members Share Posted January 30, 2012 some seemed surprised that Directors asked CM to Cry. That is what directors do, direct actors & tell them what needs to be accomplished in the scenes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members JaneAusten Posted January 30, 2012 Members Share Posted January 30, 2012 No one is shocked it just means that Days does the same ish relying on one trick to gain audience empathy, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Skin Posted January 30, 2012 Members Share Posted January 30, 2012 This argument certainly has merit. Female actresses can cry all day and it's largely seen as being good acting, while with male's in Daytime you almost never expect it and those male actors who are more sensitive actors tend to be derided for it. It's so odd. Some of this is Daytime's own fault. There's a reason why soaps are ruled by tyrant jerks like Victor Newman, Sonny Corinthois, Jason Morgan and EJ DiMera and why you almost never see characters like Luke Snyder, Lucky Spencer and Will Horton on soaps anymore. It's the same way with Primetime. Men are supposed to be "men" and somehow that translates to giving very little in terms of performance and emotion. Sad case but definitely true. Men who are sensitive and who do have a tendency to cry get called "wimpy" and are insulted for giving more emotionally in tuned performances. Yet those same female performers could cry for days and not get one eighth of the criticism. When have posters here ever praised a performance with a man crying though? It largely seems to be the opposite. Any time any male character cries posters here seem to hate it. I don't necessarily think it's homophobic, but it does show a gender norm at play here. Why is it okay for Sami to cry for years when her man of the month walks out on her, but it's wrong for Lucky or Will to cry when their family implodes or when their child dies? I don't agree with this at all. Tony Geary certainly used the "I'm not going to cry " technique tons of time during his last stint on the show. He used it a ton of times when Laura cameback, again when he ran over Jake and pretty much whenever he has a heavy scene that warrants the crying emotion. Same as JJ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members JaneAusten Posted January 30, 2012 Members Share Posted January 30, 2012 Uhm where have you seen anyone praising Sami crying. I think its been stated here it was used for a crutch for her too. I'd include Alicia Menshew in that list also and her acting unjustifiably praised for it too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members JaneAusten Posted January 30, 2012 Members Share Posted January 30, 2012 Geary's acting has become lazy in recent years but you show me where his eyes are red and he's tearing up in every scene.That was Jonathan Jackson for 2 years straight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DRW50 Posted January 30, 2012 Members Share Posted January 30, 2012 When JJ returned, he began crying just about immediately. Some of his first scenes were tears over the nobility of Jason, the wonderful father. It was ludicrous. It's a lazy trick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Antoyne Posted January 31, 2012 Members Share Posted January 31, 2012 I've never praised any actor or actress for continued tears. If t adds to a scene, great. But if any actor/actress is constantly crying it gets old. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Skin Posted January 31, 2012 Members Share Posted January 31, 2012 Most of Geary's work has been comedy for awhile now so he would have no need to "cry everyday" as you so put it. His entire relationship with Tracey is played for laughs, he ignores Lulu and he uses Ethan as a play toy to plan more schemes. Luke's character is relatively light and has been for years now. The two situations can't be compared. Lucky had several storylines where his emotional state was warranted -- look what he went through the two years he was on. His fiance had an affair with his brother, his wife died, his child died and he relapsed back into his drug addiction. All JJ had to do for two years was drama which was precisely the reason he left because they gave him no light scenes to work with and the writers completely dismantled his flagship pairing. Geary has utilized his tear ducts many a time when he had similar stories. He was a blubbering baby when Laura cameback in 06', he was a mess just this past year over the death of his son's adopted child. When Geary got emotional stories he cried just like whenever JJ got emotional stories he cried. Most of the time JJ and Geary where in a scene together they were both on the verge of tears anyway so I don't even see how this comparison was made. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members JaneAusten Posted January 31, 2012 Members Share Posted January 31, 2012 Drama nonstop does not mean nonstop tears and I'll leave it at that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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