Who's going to watch it tomorrow? I'm definitely DVR'ing

JY became a much better actor working with David Canary. Hes grown a lot even since this episode.

Blech Zach I thought he hadn't arrived at this point.

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Zach debuted in 5/2004. This episode is 12/2004.

That ending almost made me cry and I didn't cry the first time I watched it.

Zach debuted in 5/2004. This episode is 12/2004.

That ending almost made me cry and I didn't cry the first time I watched it.

I blame him for killing this show. As soon as he started dominating, Ryan seemed even more annoying and the show seemed to turn more mysogynistic in some ways. I fully believe having Erica Kane all these years and still the center of this show saved it from turning into what GH and OLTL are now. And it almost got there during Pratts tenure.

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Zach was tolerable, even enjoyable, for his first year or two, IMO. Even Zendall were a good little couple for a while.

But by 2007? Sh!t was out of control. Be glad Maria wasn't in this episode, busting his balls over "the casita! the casita! the casita!"

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I loved that last episode. Wow.

This one is okay but I've seen it about 3 times.

I blame him for killing this show. As soon as he started dominating, Ryan seemed even more annoying and the show seemed to turn more mysogynistic in some ways.

I blame the writer's and Frons, but I totally get what your saying. Beginning with B&E the Zach testosterone was becoming its own sickening character alongside Zach and more and more misogynistic every day.

But by 2007? Sh!t was out of control.

Exactly. Probably in part due to their connection with TK from Port Charles, B & E really started over-doing it with Zach da man.

I do agree with AMS, initial Zach was tolerable (except for that curse run and the casita talk was getting redudndant) and initial Z/K were really good. It was classic foreplay to a relationship. Kendall was written to have him by his balls during the time and it was a necessary element to have and IMO to keep especially considering this is AMC.

Expanding on that last thought, AMC has always had a good supply of strong, bitchy women. 2007 felt like the sudden end of that. Man, thinking about it, that's probably IMO the worst thing that was done to this show in the past decade: the abrupt weakening of the female characters across the board save Erica.

I fully believe having Erica Kane all these years and still the center of this show saved it from turning into what GH and OLTL are now. And it almost got there during Pratts tenure

No doubt. If not for Susan Lucci, particularly during Pratt, this show would have lost all of what it was and gone down the GH & OLTL street.

ETA: I quit the marathon at the wedding episode since ABC just showed that episode not too long ago.

I was really pissed off when that family unit was dumped and destroyed.

That was by far Erica's best wedding too.

My mom has actually been to that pink hotel...it's in Boca Raton.

Expanding on that last thought, AMC has always had a good supply of strong, bitchy women. 2007 felt like the sudden end of that. Man, thinking about it, that's probably IMO the worst thing that was done to this show in the past decade: the abrupt weakening of the female characters across the board save Erica.

When did the Satin Slayer stuff take place? I was so zoned out of AMC for most of that time, but I still can't get over them destroying so many young, vibrant women who, when written properly, were good characters who could have been great. This was also when they totally botched the Zarf thing, which had started well.

2006

When did the Satin Slayer stuff take place?

That was December 2006 - February 2007. McTavish's last story more or less.

Anyone who recorded it to DVR--and tomorrow's I can do a trade for the previous I Love Lucci marathon as well as Tad the Cad's and some 1980s AMC......

*desperate*

That was December 2006 - February 2007. McTavish's last story more or less.

When she didn't even seem to be writing--it was AWFUL stuff but not even McTavish style. I still think that last six months was without her.

Thanks, John and Angela! I always forget whether it was 2005-2006 or 2006-2007. It all blurs into suckage for me, to be honest. Megan surely did protect her "reputation" through those years.

When she didn't even seem to be writing--it was AWFUL stuff but not even McTavish style. I still think that last six months was without her.

Burton Armus, Kay Alden, and Daran Little. Two guys, a girl, and a soap in dire need of fixing.

For all her demented, I can't hate on McTavish. Simply because when she's not on crack, her writing consists of some of my favorite times on the show. While she could be quite awful, she knew the elements that were essential to AMC even if she didn't use it all the time. I loved her 1992-1993 season and her 2003-2004 season more than I loved anybody else's writing for AMC to this day. I'm not counting pre-1992. AMC was beautiful during that 1987-1992 period.

When she didn't even seem to be writing--it was AWFUL stuff but not even McTavish style. I still think that last six months was without her.

I disagree about it not being her. I think the serial killer story was McTavish's style. Bad or good story, she knew how to get the ratings back up. After a bad summer/fall of 2006, the numbers needed to go back up and they did. I think that was her last ditch effort to keep her job, fast ratings.

When was the first I Love Lucci marathon?