Oha nd I admit I loved that Roxy aknowledged Echo talking about the gun outloud in public. I know that's a soap staple--but it's one thing to say it when you're alone, outloud, but around all these people?!

I love how Kim calls Clint cowboy.

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I officially love Thorsten

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I told marcline I wouldn't put caveats before my opinion again but... I *am* a OLTL fan, and I think he has a point, though I don't think he expressed himself well (and actually I wish he was on OLTL still, where I mainly liked him, and not in the horrible role of Zack). But Marty's flip to psycho was SO over the top and lacking in motivation, I'm sure Susan complained to her husband about it, and he didn't want to support it. I'm more on the fence about his thoughts with the two Todds story. What's interesting is it sounds like if they HAD had him as Patrick, they might have made the transition last a bit longer... I'm not really sure why they didn't just recast Patrick, which I would have prefered to the over the shoulder shots. Thorsten left the show so long ago that a brief recast, wouldn't have caused much upset.

I told marcline I wouldn't put caveats before my opinion again but... I *am* a OLTL fan, and I think he has a point, though I don't think he expressed himself well (and actually I wish he was on OLTL still, where I mainly liked him, and not in the horrible role of Zack). But Marty's flip to psycho was SO over the top and lacking in motivation, I'm sure Susan complained to her husband about it, and he didn't want to support it. I'm more on the fence about his thoughts with the two Todds story. What's interesting is it sounds like if they HAD had him as Patrick, they might have made the transition last a bit longer... I'm not really sure why they didn't just recast Patrick, which I would have prefered to the over the shoulder shots. Thorsten left the show so long ago that a brief recast, wouldn't have caused much upset.

JMO, the problem wasn't Marty's breakdown as that was long overdue.

RC had perfectly set up one trauma after another for Marty and losing Cole to Statesville was the trigger that set her over the edge. I know I watched SH execute that breakdown perfectly in the police station when she faced that her own vouching for Hannah had led to Cole's downfall. Something in her could not face any responsibility and she slapped a pregnant Natalie and literally lost her mind. It was a riveting moment. I was cool with a Marty loses everything and needs a long trip to St. Anne's to get better EXIT. If he had stopped there, I think SH would have been ok, too.

BUT RC insisted on bringing Marty back as so totally obsessed with John's dick, she went on a killing spree. I never liked Marty and I WINCED for SH being subjected to such a humiliating end. A breakdown yes, but a Fatal Attraction I can't have this bore of a guy so I go nuts exit was horrible. More horrible was the suggestion she would be magically cured by having Patrick's dick again. Seriously, that's how it came off. Totallly offensive.

So I cheer TK for speaking out on SH's behalf.

I also cheer him for speaking out against ABC's disgusting real Greenlee campaign year sback and, now speaking out against ABC's insulting TSJ fans.

I only wish MORE actor had the guts to call out ABC!

Edited September 10, 201114 yr by TeamEric

This week it's all about those on recurring. Now Shaun's getting some screen time.

Give me MORE Shaun scenes than Rick, Aubrey, Cutter, Roxy and the Fords!

Ugh, that ugly beaver is back. That thing needs to be burned. I do love that htey borught Roxy into this story. She's always an afterthough so its a joy when she does show up

Ugh, to Rick being back. Seriously, I thought we were done with him

I have to say 2 weeks ago I had no interest in Aubrey, Cutter, Rama or Kim, but I like how everything has been brought together with them. Kim's secret that David blackmailed her with, the tease that Stacey may not be dead, the fact that Aubrey wasnt Christine's real name, the fate of the real Aubrey, and the secret that Cutter had which Rama taunted him with....its all been well done. I wonder if RC had this all planned out or if he just happened to tie them all together bc he got Kim back. Im really interested in this story

Glad to hear talks of a funeral. We better get to see it

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I officially love Thorsten

“I am not what you would call a team favorite. They wanted me to come in for one day or two days, but it wasn’t really to take Marty home, because that whole story was f—ed up anyway. It didn’t make sense to anybody. They wanted [Patrick] to bring the real Todd [Roger Howarth] back. I said, ‘You know what? I don’t get it. You asked your audience to [accept] this new actor that you’ve had for the last eight years. You have said he is your Todd. Everyone accepted it. 8 years later you go, No, idiots. That wasn’t Todd.’ That doesn’t make sense to me. That works on the radio. You can’t do it on TV. If you need someone to guide him in, I’m not going to do it.”

So much win here! I think I may love TK as well

Edited September 10, 201114 yr by Cheap21

So Cutter's dark secret was that Kim is his sister?

I guess if my sister destroyed anyone to help a nut like Stacey, I'd go in hiding too.

So Cutter's dark secret was that Kim is his sister?

I guess if my sister destroyed anyone to help a nut like Stacey, I'd go in hiding too.

No thats not his secret. There's more that the show hasnt revealed yet

Edited September 10, 201114 yr by Cheap21

Oh OK. I get the feeling they just make it up as they go along.

As much as I'm hoping for an onscreen memorial, I fear they're going to continue saying 8 years over and over which will continue making Jack's anger and rage look dumb. I do appreciate his loyalty to TSJTodd but they need to do what they did with the island fiasco and stop addressing literal time. I'm amazed none of the writers have caught this.

Not sure if the TSJ fans noticed, but he's still in the closing credits. That means we'll probably see him again haha.

I wouldn't put caveats before my opinion again but... I *am* a OLTL fan,

Eric, sent you a PM.

Not sure if the TSJ fans noticed, but he's still in the closing credits. That means we'll probably see him again haha.

Perhaps they'll show flashbacks for the funeral??

TSJ said his last air was early September. But knowing ABC's bad taste they may use a body double like they pulled with Vangie or (shudders) how GH showed a faceless Laura many times.

Oh god that Laura wig still haunts me.