One thing I will say is that I hope this doesn't deter the AMC and OLTL (particularly OLTL) from continuing to try to get stars back and ending storylines decently

At this point Llanview would be best off being blown up. The survivors can move onto the websoap.

I checked into my Facebook and saw this:

Immediately, I thought: What a horrible picture of Lucci!

I checked into my Facebook and saw this:

Immediately, I thought: What a horrible picture of Lucci!

She's old...lol..isnt she 70 something...lol

Omg I *LOVED* all of their videos!

Why have I never seen these before?? My life feels so much more complete now.

That's actually quite catchy. They should release it as a single. It may not be General Hospitale but could surpass Don't be Tardy to the Party.

I don't know that at the times Passions was cancelled they were performing any more poorly than OLTL and AMC are now. As far as mainstream, your point seems to be that OLTL and AMC might have succeeded where Passions didn't on DTV because they were more Mainstream and I don't agree. THey aren't performing great on network TV and whats more mainstream than that. As I said if its just taking whats being shown now on network TV and putting it on an online channel, big deal. And no I don't think it will be that because it can't be.

To be fair, it is all relative. One prob with Passions move is their audience was largely very young--not people who would beg their parents (or bother themselves) to get DirecTV. Of course with these shows a lot of the older audience may have no idea how to use the program to view it.

Passions had a cult fanbase but there was nothing like the outcry when it was canceled as with AMC and OLTL. Also keep in mind ALL tv ratings (including Primetime) were higher back then, so I'm not sure saying AMC's numbers aren't that far from what Passions were is really relevent.

Though it was a syndicated article, the news made our local paper today--a full half poage spread with photos lol

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I don't see why folks are saying it will be a "new show" IMO, Prospect Park would be stupid as hell to completely change them.

it's because the shows will be new. If they don't even have remotely the same cast, have to hire new people, then that's a major change. I have a feeling LaLucci might guest ocassionally, I honestly would be shocked if she did this. I think we'll lose what vets are left and a good portion of the regular cast. Heck we've already lost Debbi Morgan

Oh, God, Vee... nothing you say disproves me of the fact that it was a shi business move perpetuated by a woman who hasn't ONCE stood up for the desecration of her work these last 30 years. Show me where Nixon has all of a sudden become savvy enough to say "Hey! The future of my shows will be online and I'm going to make it happen!" Then, and only then, I will sing the praises of Kick Ass Agnes Nixon saving her shows. Are you able to, Vee? Or are you just going to repeat that it happened decades ago? Because, after all, the decisions we make in the past have NOOOOOOO effect on the results of the future. So, go... You and marceline can celebrate the notion that Agnes was the one who kept her shows alive. However, I will continue to stress the fact that she's had no say for YEARS over the life of these shows... and that ABC and Prospect Park only made a decision on a financial basis.

She did imply she as interested in online programming for it back when her totally neglected website started--two years back? But I know that's grasping.

The other thing is, back in the day it was NOT a shitty business move--she got much bigger budgets from ABC owning the shows, as well. It made complete sense.

And nobody knows what Agnes has said behind the scenes. Obviously she could have fought harder against some storylines and publicly, but that's not her style, and it might have alienated her even further from the shows. There have been some (minor) examples of stories she has managed to persuade them against. Nothing like unabortion but it's not like Y&R fans and B&B fans have plots and characters they disliked when Bill Bell was still alive.

We lost Morgan BEFORE this happened. Only reason I don't see Lucci doing it is because ABC wants to keep her. She's loyal

There aren't that many vets to lose, really. I would be surprised if MEK wasn't involved in this, and Walt Willey may want to be involved. I don't want to see Debbi go, but she was gone from AMC for almost 20 years, and they moved on. I hope Jill Larson may stay, and Susan Lucci, but generally most of AMC's past is long gone. I know it won't happen but I'm hoping this new show may end up actually bringing a few people back. For instance, it would be nice to bring back Sam Gray, and then maybe some of his family like Bobby or Nina (I'm picking Sam mostly because it sounds like this will be a youth thing or whatever). They could also bring Petey back.

I checked into my Facebook and saw this:

Immediately, I thought: What a horrible picture of Lucci!

That looks like an Erica Kane doll

These might very well be new soaps. For all this "AMC and OLTL live on!" hoopla, the final product is probably going to be more like a spin-off at the beginning and a completely new show within six months.

Besides now that the shows are "safe" it's just a matter of time before all that energy that went into saving them turns ugly. People didn't want to save THE soaps they wanted to save THEIR soaps. These aren't going to be their soaps.

I think there will still be (if they last 6 months) enough ties to the original soap to make it at least slightly identifiable as AMC/OLTL to fans... I don't see Pine Valley being completely new cast/characters, etc.

There aren't that many vets to lose, really. I would be surprised if MEK wasn't involved in this, and Walt Willey may want to be involved. I don't want to see Debbi go, but she was gone from AMC for almost 20 years, and they moved on. I hope Jill Larson may stay, and Susan Lucci, but generally most of AMC's past is long gone. I know it won't happen but I'm hoping this new show may end up actually bringing a few people back. For instance, it would be nice to bring back Sam Gray, and then maybe some of his family like Bobby or Nina (I'm picking Sam mostly because it sounds like this will be a youth thing or whatever). They could also bring Petey back.

Jil Larson for what it's worth has been very vocal on Facebook about how much she likes this idea--so if they would hire her, it sounds like she'll stay.

Someone said Lucci is loyal to ABC, I feel if anything she'd be more loyal to AMC (though I suspect if she did a webshow it would be more recurring)--she's actually been, by her standards, fairly vocal about the way ABC canceled the soap (with good reason the way they dealt with her).

She did imply she as interested in online programming for it back when her totally neglected website started--two years back? But I know that's grasping.

The other thing is, back in the day it was NOT a shitty business move--she got much bigger budgets from ABC owning the shows, as well. It made complete sense.

And nobody knows what Agnes has said behind the scenes. Obviously she could have fought harder against some storylines and publicly, but that's not her style, and it might have alienated her even further from the shows. There have been some (minor) examples of stories she has managed to persuade them against. Nothing like unabortion but it's not like Y&R fans and B&B fans have plots and characters they disliked when Bill Bell was still alive.

You're confusing the issues, the same as the others who are bitching at me. If Agnes and/or Dramatic Creations, or whatever her organization was named, still owned the shows, ABC would not be allowed to have her "banned" from meetings nor would ABC be the sole voice in where these shows ended up once they canceled them. That is all that I'm saying. If you people would drop this blind allegiance to Agnes for a split second, you'd see that it makes sense. So, again, it was a stupid business decision. She may be a sweet woman, but she's also positively daft when it comes to business. "We're a family, we're a family, we're a family." No, girl. It's a business, and they're preying on your "We're a family" attitude to take advantage.

You're confusing the issues, the same as the others who are bitching at me. If Agnes and/or Dramatic Creations, or whatever her organization was named, still owned the shows, ABC would not be allowed to have her "banned" from meetings nor would ABC be the sole voice in where these shows ended up once they canceled them. That is all that I'm saying. If you people would drop this blind allegiance to Agnes for a split second, you'd see that it makes sense. So, again, it was a stupid business decision.

The bottom line: no one on this message board has access to the contract Agnes signed when she sold the shows. The Dobson's sold

"Santa Barbara" to New World thinking they retained creative control, New World locked them out of the show when they disagreed with a decision the Dobson's made and said they didn't have creative control, and a two year legal battle caused SB's demise, the Dobson's won but the damage was done. As for Agnes and ABC maybe the terms agreed upon was one thing and later with regime changes they didn't live up to some of the terms like what happened to the Dobson's, for posters to have a pissing contest over this is outrageous as NO ONE KNOWS what she actually sold to ABC and what the contract said, if I am wrong and posters have read the contracts please elaborate on what was in those contracts.