Well, I just hope the same won't happen to videoland 🤔 and the contributors will not be asked not to post episodes anymore

Edited November 11, 20214 yr by Pedro

2 hours ago, soapwikijohn said:

Hello all, 

I'm sorry to say that I am no longer able to post the CALA Classic episodes of B&B. They are still being posted, but due to reasons beyond my control, I've been asked to no longer rip/post those episodes and to direct viewers to the official YouTube channel. 

I apologize for getting our hopes up. We will get to see everything soon *fingers crossed*. 

Thank you for all the episodes that you added!! I just wonder what happened.

3 hours ago, soapwikijohn said:

Hello all, 

I'm sorry to say that I am no longer able to post the CALA Classic episodes of B&B. They are still being posted, but due to reasons beyond my control, I've been asked to no longer rip/post those episodes and to direct viewers to the official YouTube channel. 

I apologize for getting our hopes up. We will get to see everything soon *fingers crossed*. 

Sadly I think that’s what happens when people continue to discuss or reference “the vault” on YouTube. It’s a real shame someone has come down hard on you? I have concerns the vault will be shut down if people talk about it so openly on YouTube, and people like Gilson continue to profiteer so openly and gloatingly on YouTube which highlights where he’s getting the episodes.

Thanks for you efforts though. It’s a real shame given the beautiful quality of your recordings. I think the only thing we can reasonably count on if the official YouTube channel honours their word is that at the rate of 3 episodes posted per day, we should have the first 18 seasons available to watch within 4ish years. It’s just a real pity they don’t upload them in great quality.

Edited November 11, 20214 yr by BoldKara

On 11/10/2021 at 2:33 AM, Pedro said:

Hello to everyone!

My first post dated back on July 30, 2020 has finally been approved just like my account has. I've been following you for a very long period of time reading all the posts. I am happy I am finally here.

My question for you is how come this gold digger Gilson Serafim has already an episode 1384 from videoland? Do you know why? We were up to 1350, not further. The 1384 episode is already on his youtube channel...

I asked him why is that but he did not answer to me politely because I used to pay him for the episodes twice or three times in a row when these weren't coming into the vault for a long period of time once upon a time. 

https://youtu.be/kyS5jkAOwmk

What do you think about it? 

I wanted to say a big thank you to all who contribute to upload the episodes. 

As an example of what I’ve said above about people speaking openly about the vault on YT, there’s an Antonia Chapstick (in the comments of the YT link you provide above) telling people to go check out her About page on her YT page to get episodes for free (in reference to Gilson selling them for money). When you click her check out Twitter link, it takes you straight to the Vault’s Twitter page. I worry if I can do this so easily and follow the bread crumbs people lay for others, how easy would it be for someone who works for B&B to do the same and shut the Vault down?

I just don't believe this!! A few bad people have to ruin it for everyone else. Such a pity.

7 hours ago, paradisin said:

I agree with those above that you really have an eye for this and I enjoyed these so much! I especially like the mythology comparisons, like Stephanie/Eric as Hera/Zeus is spot on. For Steffy I would say the "Cool girl" archetype has at least been part of her characterization. Admittedly, I have not seen a lot of the more recent years. 

I also agree with when you bring up Brooke that it changes over the years, and I think one of the reasons is that soap characters are often characterized as oppositions to each other (I can expand on this later, my seminar is starting soon, haha). So, Brooke's characterization has shifted depended on who she's in a storyline with, as has most characters. I think one catalyst for Brooke in particular was the departure of Stephanie, which kind of messed with the balance of her function as a character (and the show as a whole).

I absolutely agree about Steffy as a "cool girl"! That fits her very well. Hope I'd say is a "sweet girl" and a contrast to Steffy (although Hope also borders on Mary Sue territory, especially during the HFTF hype days).

I like to think of the show as built around "force fields". The structure of the show during its best years was a combination of two force fields: Stephanie-Brooke (struggle for power within the Forrester family) and Forrester-Spectra (struggle for power in the fashion business). Everything significant that happened was charged with "electricity" from either of these. I really think the loss of first Sally, then Stephanie made the show lose its power, like a battery that runs out. Since, there have been lame attempts to recapture these two central power struggles but nothing has really filled the void.

The problem with the show today is that there are no true opposite poles. There’s really only one extended family, and only one significant place of business.

As for Brooke's story arc, I feel her natural end point would have been to "become" Stephanie. They seemed to move her in that direction in the late 90s when her opposition to Amber mirrored Stephanie's opposition to Brooke, and Stephanie took Amber under her wing. But then Brooke's character took a wrong turn IMO, first with her aggressively pursuing Thorne while declaring him her new destiny (which was pretty out of character for Brooke) and then with her affair with Deacon which really hurt her credibility as a maternal character. After that, she became more a seductress than a matriarch in the making. And that was really a dead end for the character because with every passing year, Brooke's lack of growth and maturity as she continued to "follow her heart" became all the more jarring. There was a hint that Hope's birth could have been Brooke's "road to Damascus moment" and sparked a permanent shift in her. It would have been a beautiful character arc and led Brooke to a viable end point, but the show never followed through on it. 

Edited November 11, 20214 yr by Videnbas

Thats why I said that sharing too much will lead to deletion. It always happens. I've been seeing this for 15 years now. Pity. 

And please people download everything you can... that we are still able to survive this... if it is deleted... 

The "vault" isn't YouTube I just don't understand what is going on... this is just ridiculous.

Let's calm down. I see that Gilson has already deleted that comment with the link to the vault since he does not want anyone getting episodes from it but from him. But please do not give the link to anyone outside our platform cause someone from the production may see it, it is very unwise to paste it anywhere. We won't change Gilson's dirty tactics but we'd be very careful

It would be nice to know "who" specifically told soapwikijohn to not post videos here as it may alert us as to where the issue is coming from so we can avoid problems? I don't think people are being unnecessarily uncalm...it's the idea that someone is apparently policing this, and could put an end to this, that's the concern.

8 hours ago, soapwikijohn said:

Hello all, 

I'm sorry to say that I am no longer able to post the CALA Classic episodes of B&B. They are still being posted, but due to reasons beyond my control, I've been asked to no longer rip/post those episodes and to direct viewers to the official YouTube channel. 

I apologize for getting our hopes up. We will get to see everything soon *fingers crossed*. 

We just wonder what happened, could you explain a bit? How did they find out you post the episodes? 

In my humble oppinion someone is trying to scare our friend and stop her/him from sharing the episodes. The Vault is a private space and the user decides what to upload and with whom to share. Even if we have downloaded the episodes they are for presonal use of the downloader who uploades them to his Vault. The idea of OneDrive is to keep your files it is created as a personal space. Noone can tell you what to download and keep on your computer, right! 

Edited November 12, 20214 yr by Marquise

4 hours ago, Marquise said:

In my humble oppinion someone is trying to scare our friend and stop her/him from sharing the episodes. The Vault is a private space and the user decides what to upload and with whom to share. Even if we have downloaded the episodes they are for presonal use of the downloader who uploades them to his Vault. The idea of OneDrive is to keep your files it is created as a personal space. Noone can tell you what to download and keep on your computer, right! 

EXACTLY!!!

On 11/10/2021 at 4:07 PM, YRfan23 said:

I wonder if maybe they are going by the script # Pages? Hopefully they correct themselves. I personally have said before that I think these are the following dates that Iran/Contra preempted both Y&R and B&B in Summer 1987 (not sure about ATWT and GL)

July 7,8,9,10,13,14,15,23,24. 1987 

then of course September 7 and 11 1987 were preempted for Tennis and November 26/27, 1987 for Thanksgiving and December 25, 1987 for Christmas. 

Thanks for those 87 preemption dates! 

Honestly, the stuff with the vault doesn't surprise me. There is a twitter page devoted to it and I believe the person who runs it is who posts on twitter talking about each time they upload episodes. It was bout to get blown up now that B&B is trying to monetize it. I just hope for the Y&R stuff it can be saved, but considering they are uploading the B&B stuff, I'd try to avoid posting anything from that show.