Um, so we have that ever lengthy thread on classic Y&R articles and discussion, I was wondering if we could do one for B&B? I mean the whole show is a hot mess and has been well at least since 2007/2008 and unwatchable but I'd like to think back to when I loved the show 1991ish-2006. A lot of stories liked and/or remember well have now been long forgotten like Ivana's murder and the mystery around it, Macy vs. Karen, Connor(someone mentioned him recently!) Dylan and Michael, CJ/Becky, Sly, Grant. Hell Macy was my favorite character right after Sally of course.

Edited June 27, 201114 yr by soapfan770

On 12/15/2021 at 12:26 AM, yrfan1983 said:

Peter Brown is still in the contract credits but hasn’t made one appearance in at least a couple months… he must have been a FOBB (friend of Bill Bell  
 

It's interesteding that while Peter Brown's final appearence was July 25, 1992, he continues to be in the credits well into September. My take is that he worked way over his episode guarantee in the previous months (146 episodes in 15 months which is a lot...), so he was kept on for another 13 week contract cycle... Or they simply missed to terminate his contract. LOL

11 hours ago, sheilaforever said:

It's interesteding that while Peter Brown's final appearence was July 25, 1992, he continues to be in the credits well into September. My take is that he worked way over his episode guarantee in the previous months (146 episodes in 15 months which is a lot...), so he was kept on for another 13 week contract cycle... Or they simply missed to terminate his contract. LOL

The show has always been sloppy at removing cast from the end and start credits. Look how long it took for a Jack Wagner, Lesley Anne Down to be removed - and Hunter Tylo more recently. 

11 minutes ago, BoldKara said:

The show has always been sloppy at removing cast from the end and start credits. Look how long it took for a Jack Wagner, Lesley Anne Down to be removed - and Hunter Tylo more recently. 

Closing titles are usually pretty reliable (minus the occasional spelling errors and goofs) and reflect the actual contract status. The opening is a whole different story. You're very right about that. Sometimes it took them a year to update it...

13 hours ago, sheilaforever said:

It's interesteding that while Peter Brown's final appearence was July 25, 1992, he continues to be in the credits well into September. My take is that he worked way over his episode guarantee in the previous months (146 episodes in 15 months which is a lot...), so he was kept on for another 13 week contract cycle... Or they simply missed to terminate his contract. LOL

Thanks for the information. May I ask how much you worked on episode counts ? Are you going to post some ? I absolutely love these data.

4 hours ago, sheilaforever said:

Closing titles are usually pretty reliable (minus the occasional spelling errors and goofs) and reflect the actual contract status. The opening is a whole different story. You're very right about that. Sometimes it took them a year to update it...

I'm watching around 880 and the Ben Maclaine actor has been added and removed randomly. It's very noticeable as he is the first actor listed. That's just an example of the hiccups at times. Joanna Johnson was left for a while in the closing credits after Caroline died, whilst her image was removed immediately after she died in the opening titles. Other times, they have used the actor as the character eg Scott Clifton played by Liam Spencer.

At the moment, Kimberlin Brown is listed BEFORE Darin Brooks, and has been since she returned.

Fire the interns!!!

Edited December 22, 20213 yr by BoldKara

How you guys honestly know all this! 😻

What are you alls overall thoughts on the Ridge Brooke Taylor triangle? When do you feel it ran it course, and when do you feel it was at its prime.

21 minutes ago, Sasha66 said:

What are you alls overall thoughts on the Ridge Brooke Taylor triangle? When do you feel it ran it course, and when do you feel it was at its prime.

I think it ran its course after 1996…

Last time it was really exciting was when Taylor had her plane crash and was presumed death and returned later to find Brooke/Ridge back together! The Princess stuff was amazingly done aswell

When Brooke was married to Bill, KKL was credited as Brooke Logan Forrester on the closing for the entire duration of their marriage. Do they think us fans don’t notice this stuff haha. Most people skip the credits, I actually watch them because I love the aerial footage, and of course the closing theme (however I don’t like the current closing theme).

I think you’re right @BoldKara they must leave the closing credits as a job for the interns 😂

Edited December 24, 20213 yr by AusBoldFan

On 12/22/2021 at 9:21 PM, Sasha66 said:

What are you alls overall thoughts on the Ridge Brooke Taylor triangle? When do you feel it ran it course, and when do you feel it was at its prime.

It was....weird. 

I guess I got the appeal of Bridge prior to 1992 (but not really because of the Caroline factor) but from 1992-2002 the triangle almost solely consisted of Brooke boohoo'ing and telling Ridge they were destiny and him rejecting her for Taylor. The execption being 1994 when Taylor returned. None of the characters were written particularly well or with much depth though they all had moments I guess? I wish they would have focused more on actually writing better for all 3 characters than just playing the same tired beats over and over. 

Also I think Tylo's exits greatly affected the writing. KKL and Moss had made it pretty clear that they were content and fine with being lifers on Bold whereas Hunter made it pretty clear that was not in her plans and that disrupted a lot - Hunter always had one foot out of the door. She left in 1994, then returned later in the year, told them in 1995 she was leaving again, left in early 1996 and then returned later that year, and 2000 and 2001 was just some messy back and forth with Hunter and the show because she wanted outs and the ability to do other things and they weren't keen on giving it to her because it would disrupt story arcs (which eventually led to them killing off Taylor in 2002 and then asking Hunter back yet again in 2004). I actually think part of the reason Brooke and Thorne ended so abruptly is because the show thought Hunter was going to leave (she was ONLY agreeing to sign 6 month contract extensions in 2001).

But for me the prime of that triangle was actually 1993 from Ridge choosing Taylor which led to Brooke's bitterness and taking the company and then when James was introduced. 1993 was the best year of the show for several reasons- it was the only time Bold reached its potential IMO (and its unfortunate that it was really short lived).

I will forever lament the fact that Bill Bell turned it over and Hunter left because they were setting up some interesting dynamics and IMO a stale story (we had already seen a lot of it with Caroline/Ridge/Brooke) had some new life breathed ino it. Also the writing was just SO MUCH SMARTER and all four actors really took to it. 

 

We got some interesting scenes between Ridge and Sheila

I also preferred James in 1993 more than later years when I felt he had less of a backbone and became a little too preachy.

And Stephanie, Jack, Sheila and Eric were weaved into the story well since the fate of Taylor/Ridge/Brooke also had a HUGE effect on Forrester Creations so the stakes felt higher

Brooke arriving to a Forrester dinner with James and conflict starting between Taylor and Stephanie 

Brooke and Taylor arguing over what happened in Big Bear

 

If you watch the scenes leading up to Taylor's death and then the scenes when she wakes up in Morocco, the quality in the writing (and frankly the overall look of the show) is like night and day. Just such a steep decline. I enjoyed the Morocco story fine but when I go back and watch late 1994 compared to early 1994...it is really obvious that the quality just wasn't the same - it really lacked elegance and care.

 

Merry Christmas, friends! 

Merry Christmas to all fans of B&B!

1994-95 was my favorite period with Taylor’s Princess storyline! I hope Videoland will continue through those episodes

2 hours ago, AMCOLTLLover said:

Merry Christmas to all fans of B&B!

1994-95 was my favorite period with Taylor’s Princess storyline! I hope Videoland will continue through those episodes

Merry Christmas to all of you! 

1994-1995 was my favorite period too. I was hooked on the Princess Leyla storyline and the Thorne/Macy storyline. 

I was thinking and this question came to mind: If you could pick just one character-defining scene or storyline for each major character, that is, something that captures the essence of who they are as a person, what would it be?

Edited December 25, 20213 yr by Videnbas

very interesting question! The first stories that come to my mind are: Felicia's cancer/death story and Stephanie - it shows how much Stephanie cares for her family and her children. Brooke's Barabados story - Brooke losing her mind becouse she thinks that Stephanie will take them away from her - shows how much she loves them (but that is 1996 and then things change a bit but still..) and her memory coming back when she sees Ridge shows how much he means to her! 

I will think about more stories!

Edited December 26, 20213 yr by Marquise

OK This may not be new but I just got this recommended to me on YT and my question is:

Do the Greek folks who hired KKL to advertise their perfume know that the name they gave to it - "Clochard" - mean "Streetbum" in French?