9 hours ago, alwaysAMC said:

Reading about the Marty transformation is very interesting (I only have vague memories of OLTL at this time - mostly Tina/Cain/Alex/Luna/Max). I definitely remember Marty, but not in the way she was in 1992 from your prior recaps. Anyway, can't wait to read more about your thoughts in this area! I love that you can feel it.

That clip of the day was SO fun. Such Dirty Dancing-vibes and I love scenes like this on soaps. Around this same era, there was a similar dance video of Dixie and Craig on AMC. It was way more sensual/sexual, but still similar in nature, and boy do I remember watching that as a kid, as if it were yesterday. I feel like had I seen this Marty/Seude scene as a kid, I would remember it just as well. Thanks for clipping this one.

I'll have to check that Dixie scene in the future.😊 I also love scenes like these in soaps... And as much as I adore this show (in this era)... they need some positivity now and then because it gets too dark often times or comically stupid (Alex, Mortimer, Tina). A bit of fun without the caricatures is much needed.

8 hours ago, mar4331 said:

I love that you @'d me for your review about Bo and Nora lol! Is Bo's hairy chest good or bad? I say good ;)

I say Good as well. 🤭

And Linda Gottlieb of course famously produced Dirty Dancing before coming to OLTL. She was seen as a huge coup for daytime at the time for that reason.

5 hours ago, Vee said:

And Linda Gottlieb of course famously produced Dirty Dancing before coming to OLTL. She was seen as a huge coup for daytime at the time for that reason.

Which was ridiculous to me even back then, because, c'mon, it wasn't THAT great of a movie, lol.

21 hours ago, Vee said:

And Linda Gottlieb of course famously produced Dirty Dancing before coming to OLTL. She was seen as a huge coup for daytime at the time for that reason.

Marlena de Lacroix used to call her Linda "Dirty Dancing" Gottlieb.

@Maxim Finally catching up with your reviews and I must say your thoughts on Dorian, Marty and the growing love between Bo and Nora are beautifully written, especially the different dimensions of Dorian. The line from Nora about how they can never hurt each other can never be real, but you so much want it to be real, which is the power of the dialogue, chemistry, performance.

And yes, it's very nice to see Andrew sans shirt.

That Marty and Suede scene is such a blast (other than Suede mouthing the words, which I do not like). The emphasis on the sexual tension between them, somehow presented in a positive, fun way, instead of seedy, is difficult to pull off. The sequence is a beautiful yet dirty fantasy - there's the heat, but a safe heat, with everyone cheering them on instead of someone throwing up, or starting a fight, or grabbing Marty's ass.

What I appreciate most in these clips and most of the show at the time is the very honest and very believably presented sexuality. It's not trying too hard - you don't have characters in overly edited scenes to try to show passion or characters in a room full of fire hazard candles. The scene with Jason and Dorian where she keeps asking him to make love to her as he tries to instead emotionally comfort her is incredibly restrained even while in the throes of passion - you can believe these are lovers, you can believe Dorian's fears and Jason's concerns. None of this would get on the air now.

It always amazes me that Frank Valentini was around to first-hand observe these years of OLTL but his work in comparison often feels so sexless and when he was working with Ron, felt so juvenile. I imagine if Ron ever watched any of this, he'd fall asleep.

I did laugh when Dorian reminded Jason that she is a doctor. I can't remember if Elaine Princi had those mentions of Dorian's medical past. Enough producers and writers would go back to this that I wonder if Robin Strasser wanted to mention Dr. Dorian.

I don't love Lindsey's wardrobe. I'm not sure if there was a plan for her clothes, maybe she was meant to dress in a way which seemed non-assuming, but it comes across as having a limited budget. I think the clothes are too young for Anna Holbrook, if that makes any sense. Maybe that is the idea, I don't know.

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1 minute ago, DRW50 said:

It always amazes me that Frank Valentini was around to first-hand observe these years of OLTL but his work in comparison often feels so sexless and when he was working with Ron, felt so juvenile.

Yeah, and the Carlivati years (and prior) were far from sexless tbh, nor was Frank's OLTL in general. One could argue the Carlivati years were a bit too horny given the subject matter with Todd/Victor, and Frank and Ron's GH was also pretty hot and heavy. FV's first few weeks on the job here also featured one of the most explicit scenes OLTL or any daytime soap has done in the 21st century (if ever), Troy and Lindsay (Rappaport, not Butler) in bed together with him taking her from behind.

I think FV has always been a chameleon changing with the times to survive. I think he believes the current climate and his current audience at GH wants less sex and less envelope-pushing in general. That's why he consistently insinuates that the only online audience they listen to is Facebook, and a certain subset of seniors. Whereas his first 10+ years as an EP were full of sometimes envelope-pushing sex.

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