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I remember this episode. I thought Susan Lucci was great in it, very haunting performance. I remember there was a scene where she took a bubble bath in Mona's bathroom. Can you provide a link to the youtube video?

These are the scenes with her and Jack cleaning out Mona's bedroom: <iframe width="420" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/Mt-eAZ_yuQ4" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

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I have to admit I didn't have a big emotional reaction at the time to Linden House burning down because, well, for one thing, the name always kind of annoyed me, and for another, I never got to see Mona (aside from one or two clips).

It wasn't Linden House that burned down. In 1998/1999 or so, Erica sold Linden and bought an ornate Victorian mansion in the center of town. It was supposedly a house she'd passed walking home from school as a child, and she thought it was lovely and that it was the sort of house she wanted to have someday when she was rich and famous, so when it came up for sale, she bought it. This was after Mike Roy came back, and she had to choose between them - she chose Jack but slept with Mike one last time, and when Jack realized that, he dumped her. Then Jack's sister returned from the dead and claimed that she'd been raped by Ryan Lavery, and Erica and Jack were butting heads because she wanted him back but was insistent that Kit was lying about Ryan raping her because Ryan wouldn't do that. Ryan's brother, Braden, was the guilty one.

Erica moved into the Victorian, and she lived there during her relationship with David Hayward, the start of her relationship with Chris Stamp, and during Bianca's coming out. Leo also lived there with her. It was that house that Trey burned down.

Wasn't this when she had the phantom mask and contemplated suicide? Or was that something else? I always imagine the people who owned the house wandering in and seeing THE Erica Kane in their bath.

I *think* so, but I'm not sure. I haven't seen that particular scene online.

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It wasn't Linden House that burned down. In 1998/1999 or so, Erica sold Linden and bought an ornate Victorian mansion in the center of town. It was supposedly a house she'd passed walking home from school as a child, and she thought it was lovely and that it was the sort of house she wanted to have someday when she was rich and famous, so when it came up for sale, she bought it. This was after Mike Roy came back, and she had to choose between them - she chose Jack but slept with Mike one last time, and when Jack realized that, he dumped her. Then Jack's sister returned from the dead and claimed that she'd been raped by Ryan Lavery, and Erica and Jack were butting heads because she wanted him back but was insistent that Kit was lying about Ryan raping her because Ryan wouldn't do that. Ryan's brother, Braden, was the guilty one.

Erica moved into the Victorian, and she lived there during her relationship with David Hayward, the start of her relationship with Chris Stamp, and during Bianca's coming out. Leo also lived there with her. It was that house that Trey burned down.

Oh that's right. Was that the house with the pink or peach interior? For some reason I don't remember seeing that house very often - I think this was when I could barely watch the show.

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Brooke and Adam's 2002 affair starting. I think there were so many great things about these scenes.

I especially love Brooke telling Adam exactly what his problem is and his reaction.

Adam: You're mean when you drink.

Brooke: You're mean when you're sober.

I don't think AMC circa 2000-2004 was necessarily better than AMC of the 1990s, but God, the show really went downhill after 2004 or so.

Oh that's right. Was that the house with the pink or peach interior? For some reason I don't remember seeing that house very often - I think this was when I could barely watch the show.

Um... it was an absurdly ornate set. The living room was kind of yellow, I think, and for a while there was a life-sized portrait of Erica in a white evening gown above the fireplace. Erica's bedroom was a kind of pinkish/purplish color.

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I just remember the one area I guess. I have few memories of the house - the portrait, and sometimes the living room.

If Chris Stamp had any scenes in there, I blocked out any scene he had tongue.png

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I just remember the one area I guess. I have few memories of the house - the portrait, and sometimes the living room.

If Chris Stamp had any scenes in there, I blocked out any scene he had tongue.png

Ugh. He was awful, wasn't he? He and Erica seemed so forced together. It's a shame they killed him off though because I could have seen him being interesting with someone like Krystal.

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His accent annoyed me, and just the whole stereotype of him. I don't think Erica ever needed the story of the "common" man who would take her down a few pegs. Then making him a secret agent, which was dull, as any spy capers have been on soaps since the Cold War ended.

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In real life, I agree, most things have to go. On a soap, I just have this image of Erica having storage lockers with Mona's things and every once in a while going to see them when she needs to get away from the people in her life.

I have to admit I didn't have a big emotional reaction at the time to Linden House burning down because, well, for one thing, the name always kind of annoyed me, and for another, I never got to see Mona (aside from one or two clips). I was more used to the Erica of the late 90's, who had been in and out of Wildwind, and was more of a loner, as Bianca was only a recurring character. It wasn't until the whole Bianca rape story that I started to understand more of the Kane legacy.

Wasn't this when she had the phantom mask and contemplated suicide? Or was that something else? I always imagine the people who owned the house wandering in and seeing THE Erica Kane in their bath.

It wasn't Linden House that burned down. In 1998/1999 or so, Erica sold Linden and bought an ornate Victorian mansion in the center of town. It was supposedly a house she'd passed walking home from school as a child, and she thought it was lovely and that it was the sort of house she wanted to have someday when she was rich and famous, so when it came up for sale, she bought it. This was after Mike Roy came back, and she had to choose between them - she chose Jack but slept with Mike one last time, and when Jack realized that, he dumped her. Then Jack's sister returned from the dead and claimed that she'd been raped by Ryan Lavery, and Erica and Jack were butting heads because she wanted him back but was insistent that Kit was lying about Ryan raping her because Ryan wouldn't do that. Ryan's brother, Braden, was the guilty one.

Erica moved into the Victorian, and she lived there during her relationship with David Hayward, the start of her relationship with Chris Stamp, and during Bianca's coming out. Leo also lived there with her. It was that house that Trey burned down.

I *think* so, but I'm not sure. I haven't seen that particular scene online.

Different story. The mask was when she was disfigured in a car accident with David.

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Yeah, the Phantom of the Soap Opera s/l was years after Mona's death.

The remodeled Linden debuted the day Erica came back from a business trip and discovered Mona, who had been house-sitting, had passed away in her sleep. I don't believe Erica ever sold the house. I remember her last scene there, she turned before heading out the door and cheerfully said, "Bye bye Linden!", as in "Bye for now" as she had closed down the house before to move in with her husband of the moment.

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That was very nice of Agnes to write that (although I thought AMC was a mess at that point). She seemed to have a little more of a relationship with SPW than she had with SOD - they printed several of her letters in that era.

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That was very nice of Agnes to write that (although I thought AMC was a mess at that point). She seemed to have a little more of a relationship with SPW than she had with SOD - they printed several of her letters in that era.

In 2000? I thought the show was great.

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In 2000? I thought the show was great.

I thought the Bianca story was good, but nothing else worked for me, although I didn't watch on a daily basis. I mostly just remember a lot of Greenlee tantrums and that boring Alex story. Was this when they had Adam get a pie in the face?

I did like the reunion between Stuart and Marian.

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It's interesting, watching the late May 1993 episode. For some reason I thought that Kendall was on the outs with Erica from the time Erica learned Kendall was her daughter. I never knew there was a point where she was sort of trying to accept Kendall. I also never knew she was estranged from Mona at this time. I like the scene where Erica tells Dimitri that she rarely sees Bianca and every time she sees her again, they're strangers.

The whole story with Tad/Brooke doesn't do a lot for me, as it's so obvious they are just stalling until he can reunite with Dixie, but I did enjoy her scenes with Phoebe. It's kind of sad though seeing Phoebe lose a lot of her fire as she mostly becomes a supporting character. At least Ruth Warrick still brought her own personality and the bond between Brooke and Phoebe holds up well.

How was the "whiteface" story with Taylor received at the time? Ingrid Rogers did a good job with the voice. The makeup looks like when Jennifer Landon played Cleo on ATWT. Not the best. I kept thinking the white supremacist looked like Michael Weatherly...

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