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OLTL: Discussion for the week of April 4

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Jack's had a front row seat watching T&B play revenge games against each other as he proved two years ago when he was rolling his eyes at T&B's latest round of custody battles.

Yeah, I have no idea why Blair would've wanted her children away from Todd in early 2009.

His hero worship of Todd is more dad understands me... b/c Todd doesn't pretend to be a better person.

Au contraire - Todd used to not pretend. Now pretending is all he does, with everyone, about everything, every human emotion, except when he rages at women for disobeying him or drops by Marty's to blame her for everything, again.

Blair hasn't changed. Like Carly, she's used her children as weapons for decades.

Every time Blair has moved to take custody of her children from Todd, it's been because Todd's actions more than warranted it. There is absolutely no storyline I can recall in which she did not have a sane reason for taking those kids, from Starr's kidnapping to his 1998 rampage to the original Jack storyline to the Walker fiasco to the rapemance, and on and on. There has literally never been a situation in which poor Todd just wanted to be a good dad to his kids.

Actually, Blair dumps her boys off with Addie all the time while neglects her children's welfare to chase her men or her revenge games.

Maybe this was cut for time in my viewing area, but regardless of what feed of the show you are seeing, what we get on a daily basis is Blair parenting and Todd not, unless the child is a teenaged girl with burgeoning sexuality which he can insinuate himself into in very Lord-esque ways.

Two recent examples, Jack was acting up at school to get attention upset Todd left for Seattle. Does Blair stay and focus on Jack's need for one parent to at least pay attention him? No, she dumps Jack on Addie and races off to Seattle, too, obsessed with chasing Todd's tail and too curious if her scheming with Ross paid off.

Actually, Blair went to Seattle to bail Todd out of jail.

Jack last summer begs Blair don't marry Elijah, acts up all over basically screaming pay attention to ME and she races off to Tahiti with Elijah instead.

What Jack did was his usual schtick, and Blair was the only one he got scenes with about this. She listened to him but Elijah had presented himself as the dream man. What is Todd's excuse for never spending an ounce of time with his children?

Screaming at me Todd is worse isn't going to work, Vee. I admit Todd is a lousy parent and have called him out for it since "get rid of IT." But the fact of the matter is Jack has two lousy parents and role models.

No, what he has in 2011 is one imperfect parent and one sociopath sperm donor.

Listen to Jack's words, Vee... he sneers the perfect princess line b/c he's dripping with resentment that she's the family darling yet at 15 was reckless and stupid enough to get knocked up, hardly a good role model either.

None of this is actually in what they air. You're extrapolating to excuse the poor acting for Jack and the minuscule writing for the character to pretend he has a valid point of view, which he doesn't. Also, you appear to drop a lot of connecting words from your sentences for some reason, but that's a mystery for another time.

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Genuine sex appeal & charisma beats bitch tits any day.

The actor actually had surgery for that medical condition. :ph34r:

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The actor actually had surgery for that medical condition. :ph34r:

Ew.

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+1.

This years Young Actor Emmy should be his (watch it go to Nic Robuck). :ph34r:

I already called that. ;-)

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I don't watch OLTL regularly, but the last couple of days were really good. All the child actors were fine, and I had to laugh how in typical soap fashion tragedies are striking all over town at once. I think the kid who plays the bully was good. He really has that obnoxious "whatever" attitude teenagers get. All he needed to do was start rolling his eyes. And I like the stuff with Bo, Nora, Clint and Matthew.

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Todd would have cheered him on. He is the same guy that rooted for Starr when she ordered piranha and put it in Max's bathtub.

Wtf?? I dont remember any of this. :lol:

What happened to this Starr? Oh right Cole. <_<

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LOVED the Tea and Viki scenes. They dont get to interact nearly as much. I miss their closeness. With Carlotta MIA, I hope the writers keep this up.

Ditto on Clint and Natalie. I love how they didnt judge each other and they have a great relationship. I wish she had delved into Clint's hate of Rex though and brought up how he accepted her. When she first came to town, she forced her way into the family, hurt and manipulated Jessica, got her hands on the Buch money and was a complete bitch, yet he didnt treat her with the same venom that he's treating Rex with for similar actions

Bo, Nora and their double standards. Let me guess, they will cover this up? Nora's 2 for 2 now in that she only raises murderers. Speaking of which, that was pretty f--ked up that Matthew was prepared tolet Nate go to jail for his crime

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There is absolutely no storyline I can recall in which she did not have a sane reason for taking those kids

A family court judge cited both T&B for using their kids as weapons against each other and threatened them with foster care. They are both horrible parents. Months later, Blair finally admitted that judge was right and that she did, in fact, spend years using her kids as weapons against Todd.

Actually, Blair went to Seattle to bail Todd out of jail.

Actually, the lawyer informed Blair he was in the processs of arranging bail. She raced there neglecting to pay attention to Jack's troublesome school behavior.

What Jack did was his usual schtick, and Blair was the only one he got scenes with about this. She listened to him but Elijah had presented himself as the dream man.

Usual schtick it is, because Blair has introduced a parade of men into his life and he's sick of it.

What is Todd's excuse for never spending an ounce of time with his children?

You keep trying to deflect blame from Blair by screaming Todd is a lousy parent. That's a massive fail b/c I've called out both T&B for years for being horrid parents.

I repeat, T&B are OLTL's version of S&C, very selfish people who have badly damaged their kids. Just like Carly couldn't put her kids first and drop revenge against Brenda at a wedding, Blair couldn't either.

None of this is actually in what they air. You're extrapolating to excuse the poor acting for Jack and the minuscule writing for the character to pretend he has a valid point of view, which he doesn't.

Actually, Jack's bad attitude towards Blair's poor choices in life and neglect been shown quite a few times over the last 2 years. He's been rolling his cynical eyes at her, blackmailing her over Ross, and complaining loudly about her parade of men from McPain to Ross to Elijah.

Jack's bad behavior was all sadly very predictable. Blair neglects him and Todd hasn't paid a lick of attention to him since last summer so he's grown more resentful and screaming for attention in his own twisted way. It's psychology 101 actually.

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. Speaking of which, that was pretty f--ked up that Matthew was prepared tolet Nate go to jail for his crime

Did that happen? I bet OLTL did not know who the killer was then.

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All I remember Viki doing with Tea is hyping Todd/Tea. I would be more interested if he was gone for good.

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Did that happen? I bet OLTL did not know who the killer was then.

I bet they didn't. Matthew being the killer is a total rewrite in my opinion.

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Actually, Jack's bad attitude towards Blair's poor choices in life and neglect been shown the last 2 years. He's been rolling his cynical eyes at her, blackmailing her over Ross, and complaining loudly about her parade of men from McPain to Ross to Elijah.

Jack's bad behavior was all sadly very predictable. Blair neglects him and Todd hasn't paid a lick of attention to him since last summer so he's grown more resentful and screaming for attention in his own twisted way. It's psychology 101 actually.

I think the story hasn't been very organically told. Jack was written as a relatively normal child up to the point where Todd became deified after the Tarty stuff, he tried to kill himself and wanted his kids back and so on. Then suddenly, Jack started badmouthing Blair and Dorian all the time and just wanted to be with his father. He didn't seem to hate John or Eli because of any other reason than they weren't Todd. He began talking about Tea's underwear over and over. He would vanish for long stretches of time and when he would appear it was just for this type of stuff which seemed less like a cry for help and more like OLTL's attempt at being cute.

Then suddenly when they want to tell this story, he is damaged, Blair and Todd have failed him, etc. Up to the start of this story that was never an issue.

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Jack of today is exactly what most people pegged that he would turn out to be years ago. There is absolutely nothing about him that is a surprise. With Blair and Todd as parental figures, he was doomed from the getgo. With any luck Sam wont end up as messed up.

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Jack of today is exactly what most people pegged that he would turn out to be years ago. There is absolutely nothing about him that is a surprise. With Blair and Todd as parental figures, he was doomed from the getgo. With any luck Sam wont end up as messed up.

That's based on what people thought they'd see, not on what the story told. I'm sure most people never thought Starr would be a huge bore with a 2-3 year old child, yet that's what she is because of the story.

Even then I'm not sure how many people thought he'd spend his time saying Marty wanted to be raped.

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