^^^ My thoughts exactly.

So we had a 3 week Maura & Meggie induced upswing and we're back to sh!t like this?

It has been PAINFUL to sit through this boring ass annoying show lately. Actors I really enjoyed on other soaps (Leyden, Riegel) are on every day & I can't stand either of them (in Leyden's defense, it's mainly bc his story is in the Cane/Lily/Sofia vortex of suck). Actors I hated on other soaps (Branson, Nichols) are either underwritten & underdeveloped characters that I rather like (Nichols) or playing yet another prick among pricks that I hate as much as Jonathan Crappery and yet two women are actually fighting over him! I wish Meggie would come back & withhold his medication.

The gravy scene- there are NO words. Sorry, Julia SUCKS as Sophia! And Darius as Malcolm? Oh, GOD, just TERRIBLE.

Malcolm (to Neil RE: Blake): I get a strange vibe from him.

Totally believe it if Shemar or (I'll continue to beat this drum) BORIS KODJOE were playing the part. But DARIUS? It's probably the fumes from the spoiled sandwich meat going to your head.

Why wasn't Devon there for Thanksgiving? Or did I blink when he was in the background? I don't even LIKE Devon, but if there were any Winters left that I'd actually believe got strange vibes from Blake, it's Devon. By a landslide.

I LOVE Maura West, but (shockingly! /sarcasm), they clearly didn't have a storyline planned for Diane. They made her broke & jobless? No. Sorry. Diane (as played by AD) was one of the most intelligent businesswomen ever to have graced The Young and the Misogynistic: Victor Wins Pt 57. No WAY is savvy Diane not only jobless, but broke, economy be damned.

I also LOVE GigglyKyle and LOVE that he gave it to GigglyHeffa. Dumping water on that laptop is exactly what immature Phyllis would have done had Diane been the one to write the article. Sigh. It still kills me though what could have been had Darcy Rose Byrne's still been playing Abby and these two giggly kids finding out they were test tube babies. A great umbrella storyline, though this regime would have made a mess of it anyway.

I love Sharon Case, but she's at her best when Sharon is "bitchy" or "off." Why do the writers insist on making her an IDIOT SLUT? And NO, you don't take Nick back, girl. NO, you don't boink ADAM(!), girl. You sleep with the man who stole your baby & the Dickolaus who pricks women even after the death of YOUR ONLY baby girl (at the time)? As Fantasia's mom would say, "Girrrrr lplease!"

Remember when Nikki was drinking, had a storyline, and went to rehab? Remember that? I wouldn't have been all for it had I known that all it was going to amount to was an excuse for her not to be in any scenes. [Carolyn Hinsey] Let's all play the drinking game every time someone mentions Nikki not being able to be somewhere because she's in rehab! [/Carolyn Hinsey]

Jack has so many revenge schemes in the air that we're to believe he's dumb enough to gloat to Victor about the confiscated files? And then he's SHOCKED that Victor double-crossed him? Having watched this show for 18 years and knowing their history- DUH! Jack. Is. Not. This. Dumb.

What's with his sudden interest in Skye? She's the "best businesswoman he's ever seen?" I mean, I love Skye as much as the next homo, but let's be honest, she's a high stakes poker playing con artist. Ironically, I've been seeing lots in the news lately about hedge funds and their relation to insider trading.

I could go on and on. So I will. WARNING: This post is achieving PhoenixRising levels, in terms of longevity of course, not positivity.

Yvonne Zima's Daisy is a creep. But she's a WEAK one, at best. I never believed she had the smarts or strength to keep Lauren or Jana locked up all that time. But watching Lauren FLIPPING out over this total nonentity is just......insulting. Lauren is supposed to be a bitch, not a stupid bitch. She took on Sheila Carter, like 6 times. Even SHEILA didn't freak her out this much. It's preposterous! The only thing this storyline is doing is giving Jana a purpose.

Michael Graziadei- shave yourself, wash your hair, comb your hair- are you shooting up with Heinle in the dressing room? Ok, that's an extreme statement for even my taste, but they're both a mess. And wardrobe is dressing him like something out of the Salvation Army. Memo to wardrobe: MAB is penning a story with he & DAISY not DAYZEE. Sheesh.

I almost forgot the Fisher-Baldwin-Jeffreys.

Michael......is only there because CLB has 2 days on doughnut rotation.

Gloria......is only there to show that even with a character who could literally DO ANYTHING, MAB & Co will find a way for them to do nothing. But keep them anyway. It's their M.O.

Kevin.......You ARE Ducky. You ARE boring. I do HATE you. The only storyline I'd enjoy seeing you in is a Tom Fisher's cousing coming to town and selling "Team Tom Fisher" t-shirts with Roscoe Born's mustache smirk on the back and seeing all of the t-shirts around town drives you crazy and you kill Cane, NotLily, Jana, Gloria, Jeffrey, NotHeather, Ronin, Daisy, Michael, Fenn, Sophia, NotMalcolm, NotBilly, NotVictoria, and Blake is the one who stops you and orders the cattle to stomp all over you in Australia. It would be FAR more entertaining than what's on my screen.

Jeffrey........perfectly entertaining, but we never see you and I don't care what you're doing with Jimmy Berluti from The Practice. Just go away.

Eric Braeden- STOP TRYING TO WRITE THE SHOW! YOU KILLED THE BEST STORY THE SHOW HAD GOING THAT COULD HAVE GONE ON FOR YEARS WITH AN ACTRESS YOU SUPPOSEDLY RESPECT AND ADMIRE AND HELPED TO GET THE FREAKING JOB! Just, no.

Need an attorney to do your dirty work, but your opponent has already hired Michael Baldwin? Don't fret! Don't grab the yellow pages! Just hire VANCE ABRAMS, dirty attorney at law. WARNING: He requires that his litigants hold cue cards for him during trial.

Eileen Davidson, you look smashing and are about the best thing about the show, which is probably why we never see you anymore. Ashley, where art thou?

I threatened to quit watching when the show was trying to dump Jess Walton & Jill. I may as well have because she literally does nothing.

I hate you Y&R for getting good for 3 weeks and throwing it all to hell and most of all, for causing me to post my most nonsensical post of all time because of all the terrible, wretched thoughts that go through my head when I try to think of why I hate and am bored to pieces by everything on my screen. And now I'm writing run-on sentences!

F-U-C-K YOU MAB & CO!

Pretty much in love with this...I think you nailed absolutely everything on the head...One thing you pointed out and I've noticed as well was I've started hearing about these hedge fund things on the news..Weird

Y&R seriously needs both new blood and some outsider to prune the cast down to a manageable size.

Y&R has too large a cast with far to many new characters being introduced within a short amount of time. May people look at a large cast as a good thing, as if this translates into the show being a big budget production; however, only RC (OLTL) and DM (ATWT) were able to make this work with the latter having only mixed results.

ATWT had a similiar problem with bloated cast and unseen vets during the 1970's: It was the number 1 show and didn't want to toss the baby with the bath water in terms of axing vets and loosing viewers. Bell created a youth-focused show (hence the very name of the soap) and retired a good many fan favs during his tenure. I understand why the network wants Y&R, 'The Next Generation', in terms of demos; however, few of these new additions can act and fewer are well-developed characters.

I'm among the few who liked LML along with her efforts to merge the Abbots with the Fisher/Baldwin clan. Under Latham, Gloria was an entertaining and powerful character but now she, along with Jeffery, need to go--the current regime will never have story for them aside from Glow Worm and Hogan. Jill, now that she is no longer Kay's daughter/protege, is pretty much lost in space. Lauren and Michael have no purpose aside from this 'battle' with a wilted Daisy. Cloe, who was off to a great start, is a poor match with Kevin. Jena has been ruined and is going mental ATWT Julia-style meaning she will probably sexually attack Keven soon. I adore Kevin but his character, aside from his noble urge to adopt the baby and undo the curse of Terrible Tom, has failed to grow and mature. Phyllis will never mature. Deacon sould be dead. I could go on and on about other character but, by now, it is pretty clear in terms of the direction I'm going.

I do disagree with te previous posting about wardrobe and feel that this is the only thing Y&R does well. By far, Y&R is the best dressed soap cast. Daniel looks great--he is an artist and, in this case, the "salvation army" look and facial hair work. The same goes for Victoria who is supposed to be Yoga Girl and all things retro. I like that the various characters express their personalities via hair and wardrobe. It would be pretty silly for an artist to sport American Eagle outfits or for Victor to show up in the latest Tommy Hill tee. Too many soaps have every character dressed exactly the same regardless of job or interest.

Production values are way down. Suddenly, every new set is too bright, woody and generally a shade of yellow. The show was known for dark sets with dark lighting and I hate MaBell's design style. Even Kay's iconic living room is being lit differently. I understand small changes had to be made for HD but this is overkill with every apt. having the same Wicket front door.

I do disagree with the previous posting about wardrobe and feel that this is the only thing Y&R does well. By far, Y&R is the best dressed soap cast. Daniel looks great--he is an artist and, in this case, the "salvation army" look and facial hair work.

Did you SEE what they had MTS wearing on Wednesday and then yesterday? This is the best dressed soap cast?

Yes, Daniel is an artist, but when he was having art shows with Amber, etc..., that's when they were dressing him like an artist. Most artist's have somewhat of a unique style. Tan trench coats, scarves, greasy hair, and growth(s) on his face do not equate style.

The same goes for Victoria who is supposed to be Yoga Girl and all things retro.

No, she's not.

She's the daughter of Victor and Nikki Newman and an accomplished businesswoman, not following Phish on tour all summer.

No, she's not.

She's the daughter of Victor and Nikki Newman and an accomplished businesswoman, not following Phish on tour all summer.

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In all honesty, if this happens...I might have to stop watching this show. I just hate what it's become.

Frankly, nothing these people do surprises me anymore. What does surprise me, though, is that people continue to keep it afloat in the ratings when it doesn't really deserve to be.

Crap. I'm not used to this weekly thread thing.

Edited December 1, 201015 yr by P.J.