I can honestly say that you are the only person I've seen who has faith in JHC. As for "long live all soaps", well....

I see people saying "I don't want to see another soap canceled." Personally I've accepted that as inevitable and in some cases, long overdue. I love serial drama but I think we've done a disservice to the genre as a whole by hanging on to these shows. This is the reason we get recycled writers, producers, and stories and why the most mediocre managers have been allowed to go from show to show wreaking havoc while the real visionaries of the genre want nothing more to do with soaps.

Frankly, I consider every canceled show another step towards rebirth so let's get on with it.

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Frankly, I consider every canceled show another step towards rebirth so let's get on with it.

Yes we know you want all soaps cancelled, why do you even watch soaps?

Edited August 30, 201015 yr by Zendall Fan

Yes we know you want all soaps cancelled, why do you even watch soaps?

Oh good Lord when did the soap audience become such a bunch of whiny, provincial bitches?

Forgive me for not clutching my pearls everytime somebody mentions cancellation but soaps are dying for a reason. Part of that reason is just the reality of the business and part of it is failings on the part of the people in the genre. I watch AMC because I like it but when it goes I'll say goodbye with gratitude and look forward to what these actors do next. If you want to pretend that these shows will last until the sun supernovas, have at it. Your pitchforks and midnight sacrifices didn't save Passions, GL or ATWT so why don't you direct some of that righteous indignation at the people who are really killing soaps instead of getting the vapors over the fact that some of us can actually handle change or even embrace it.

I don't need to climb into the coffin with the dessicated corpses of what were once great shows. I'll leave that to the Save Our Soaps necrophiliacs with their rallies and campaigns. I look forward to what soaps are going to become because I have faith in the genre and like it or not, the genre needs to be about more than these shows.

Edited August 30, 201015 yr by marceline

Jamey Giddens is Seriously he HATES AMC. Him sounding all happy about it getting canceled makes me SICK. If you are a soap blogger, and you DON'T watch AMC then don't state ANY opinion on it.

Jamey sometimes starts things for NO REASON. I udnerstand he did break the L.A. move but really thats it. He needs to stop hating on AMC.

I don't think AMC is WAY overbudget as Jamey says. I do believe that AMC is somewhat over budget but not to the point where ABC is losing money. I agree with what many of you were saying. JHC may be the EP but if she is spending to much money then Brian Frons is the one who has to say NO to them.

Jamey Giddens is Seriously he HATES AMC. Him sounding all happy about it getting canceled makes me SICK. If you are a soap blogger, and you DON'T watch AMC then don't state ANY opinion on it.

How is saying the show is over budget stating an opinion on it?

Jamey sometimes starts things for NO REASON. I udnerstand he did break the L.A. move but really thats it. He needs to stop hating on AMC.

I bet you didn't think he was hating when Jamey was saying OLTL was in trouble.

Jamey has proved many times to have legit sources at ABCD, but now that he is saying your show is in trouble you want to discredit him.

I don't think AMC is WAY overbudget as Jamey says. I do believe that AMC is somewhat over budget but not to the point where ABC is losing money.

If you are spending more money than you are making, then that is losing money.

That's actually what I was going to say, they'd have been better off moving the show to CT and if they had, they'd most likely still have David Canary around more too

Nah, he was ready to retire, he said as much for a year before the announcement. Though maybe he woulda kicked around another year or so...

I remember reading that there was in fact talk of AMC moving to *either* L.A. or CT, and that the decision came down to the wire. I need more solid evidence though.

Maury, Jerry, and Steve all tape in Stamford which is an urban-suburban 'burb of NYC. A lot of the older vets have homes near there, Slezak, Canary, even the Zenk-Pinters, and it would be a short drive for them. However, it is on average an hour-long (more or less depending on local/express/peak hours) ride up from the city damn near $13 one way (I live in the area, R. Sinclair can tell you). The show would probably have to give out travel stipends for cast and crew living in the city, at least in the beginning, but then folks would probably be on their own. That would kinda suck.

Ah OK I stand corrected, though as you say, much like this budget stuff it seems all the info has been uncredited.

OLTL tapes all there scenes by set and then edits them into the correct episodes. This saves tons plus the scene u see on air is usually the first and only take the actors get

Ithought all the soaps did this now... (hence actors complaining that the old days when it was like doing a play--in order--every day are gone)

For someone who proclaims to love daytime soooo much he sure was downright excited and giddy at the possibility that AMC could be cancelled. I loathe Days, loathe it, but that doesn't mean I would be happy to see it cancelled.

OLTL might be the self proclaimed red headed step child on ABC but AMC is the redheaded step child amongst saop bloggers.

Isn't that funny and true?? Much of it must be residual backlash for the soap being SOO praised from the 80s to mid 90s, but for all the reports about AMC being given too much credit, etc, online it certainly doesn't seem to be (despite the fact that currently I think it obviously is the much better soap).

Whenever people come out with statements like this it makes me think a shake up is coming. ATWT is supposedly the lowest cost soap yet it managed to keep more actors on contract than DOOL and AMC. I dislike Goutman, consider him a show killer, but could, rather soon, see him over at AMC. Frons has already raided the writing team and, once the soap press hypes the World finale as 'moving' or something along those lines, Goutman will show up to cut costs and finish the process of killing off the show.

I'd actually take him over JHC hands down. And he has a history with AMC--he made his name being known as one of its best directors.

I bet you didn't think he was hating when Jamey was saying OLTL was in trouble

Jamey has proved many times to have legit sources at ABCD, but now that he is saying your show is in trouble you want to discredit him.

Yeah, Jamey at times really annoys me with some of the stuff that he says, but I don't think he says things about any of the shows just for the heck of it.

Yes we know you want all soaps cancelled, why do you even watch soaps?

Do you just read a few scattered words and decide what the poster means??? Marceline is one of our smartest posters here, IMHO, and the post said nothing of the sort.

Yeah, Jamey at times really annoys me with some of the stuff that he says, but I don't think he says things about any of the shows just for the heck of it.

He has a very mixed track record--maybe 50/50. And did he say OLTL was in trouble "gleefully"? Did he when he talked about AMC's future? exactly.

I have plenty of opinions about Jamey Giddens.

Anyway, AMC being over budget wouldn't be surprising. It's not as if they'd suddenly break even or produce a surplus after only 8 months. If it was that simple that only a short 8 months and BINGO!, All My Children's budget problems were solved, I doubt the move would've happened in the first place. The blood letting of AMC's budget clearly has been happening for years. All of the unnecessary remotes and second unit photography JHC has been allowing to happen under her watch did NOT help matters. I mean, did we really need to go on location to watch Kendall and Greenlee see Fusion lipstick being made?

Do you just read a few scattered words and decide what the poster means??? Marceline is one of our smartest posters here, IMHO, and the post said nothing of the sort.

Cut and paste posting, darling. Cut and past posting.

The only thing that has ever bothered me about Jamey or any other soap fan-come-soap journalist ( ) is the "♫I know something youuu don't♫" crap that only further emphasizes the fact that they are just a little bandwidth (don't go there) and hustle away from your typical online soap fanatic.

I don't get how he was sounding gleeful. The other guy was saying that AMC would never get cancelled because of Susan Lucci, and Jamey just said not to be so sure about that. The tone wasn't gleeful, but more of "don't be so sure about that". I really don't get why people are acting as if Jamey is screaming I HATE AMC from the rooftops. Jamey has said numerous times that OLTL was in trouble, and many of you agreed. But when it is AMC in the hot seat all of a sudden he has an "iffy track record" and he is "out to get AMC". I want OLTL to last longer, but I am not going to bitch if it doesn't, and I am certainly not going to gloat if it does.

And did he say OLTL was in trouble "gleefully"? Did he when he talked about AMC's future? exactly.

You must not log onto DC all of the time or listen to those webcasts. Jamey trashed the hell out of OLTL when KISH was dropped and he said he didn't give a sh*t about the show anymore. He's didn't say anything bad about AMC except them being over budget. And his comments probably had way more to do with Frons and his decisions than the show itself.

I don't get how he was sounding gleeful. The other guy was saying that AMC would never get cancelled because of Susan Lucci, and Jamey just said not to be so sure about that. The tone wasn't gleeful, but more of "don't be so sure about that". I really don't get why people are acting as if Jamey is screaming I HATE AMC from the rooftops. Jamey has said numerous times that OLTL was in trouble, and many of you agreed. But when it is AMC in the hot seat all of a sudden he has an "iffy track record" and he is "out to get AMC". I want OLTL to last longer, but I am not going to bitch if it doesn't, and I am certainly not going to gloat if it does.

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