Ruxton, I could have sworn they said Tonio was still alive? Either way, I just want to imagine Julie happy and living the high life. I know she settled down with the poor recast of Caleb but I don't believe she would be happy that way for more than a year or two. It was this endless WTF for me when they dumped Aaron off on her, and then whenever they would mention Julie it was always oh Julie is ill, Julie is ill. Did they actually know anything about Julie, or did they think she was in an iron lung? It's like when Margo left town because Lyla broke her hip. I know you can break your hip easily and I know Lyla is an older woman, but really? That's the reason you give?

PJ, I think the problem with Bryant is they had that big entrance (he was supposed to be the "player") which fizzled out and after that they stopped caring. They did have him with Gaby or Ruby or whatever her name was, the father/daughter con artist, but there was more which could have been done. A recast, at the very least. The whole thing was bad shock value, and bad manipulation. He was killed off so we could see Craig fake cry/laugh and then bed Carly.

I also feel like they gave up on Holroyd, without ever trying. I saw him on Medium last year and he was very frightening. He could have played a dark Paul. It was such lazy writing to have Paul as this angst-ridden prince of darkness, after Paul had been written as a flawed but good man for years, all the way back to Andy Kavitovit. Howarth's Paul never seemed edgy to me, he just seemed like he needed a pacifier. It was the same idea that has killed so much of daytime, that being a manly man = throwing tantrums and whining.

Tonio is dead. Douglas Marland killed him off. Awwww,,,,I liked recast Caleb...Graham Winton....lol....

It was Ruby. I actually liked Ruby but the storyline was bad. The actress had potential.

When Roger took over as Paul .....my love for him ended. Paul was never the same again. Roger Howarth has and always will be playing Todd Manning version 2.0 on ATWT.

Great Tonio moments....the remote gives me chills...loved Douglas Marland's remotes...Goutman doesnt even come close!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fESNwD4-Ngo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fxFyo5frZls

I think he was in the Bonnie storyline in Scotland with a returned Duncan but cant recall what happen to him.

Isaac & Bonnie came back from Scotland & he didn't.

They said he chose to work there.

In one interview, Sheffer complained Paul couldn't hold a grudge (or some such BS)...well, TIIC didn't write Paul as carrying a grudge. If you don't challenge the actor, how can you complain if they don't give you a subtext you haven't even hinted at?

And Holroyd showed he could do morally ambiguous during the James & Marshall story.

His favorites blossomed under him (Katie, Rose, Craig and especially Barbara).

Don't forget Emily.

Hem was LOVE.

Great Tonio moments....the remote gives me chills...loved Douglas Marland's remotes...Goutman doesnt even come close!

Great videos! I've had always wanted to Tonio's fall again. Although I don't think this was the last of him, I seem to recall he eventually showed up again very briefly the following year to stir the pot with the Hughes family and then fled town.

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Great videos! I've had always wanted to Tonio's fall again. Although I don't think this was the last of him, I seem to recall he eventually showed up again very briefly the following year to stir the pot with the Hughes family and then fled town.

I thought he did survive the fall but later held Bob and Susan at gunpoint as they performed surgery on him but he died.

I thought he did survive the fall but later held Bob and Susan at gunpoint as they performed surgery on him but he died.

That's pretty much what happened actually, although I seem to recall 2nd death was written somewhat ambiguously.

There seemed to be one big black cloud hovering around Sheffer's ATWT by the end of his stint, and I don't think the show has ever really gotten rid of it. And Sheffer's brought it with him to other shows.

Now that big black cloud is hovering around Y&R! Wish it would go away!...... and take PR with!

This popped up at DAYS too. Oh, Hogan would love to write for the older characters, it's just the budget! Funny how Gary Tomlin has managed to put vets onscreen quite a bit, in far greater roles than Sheffer has done on any of his shows. I think he has contempt for older characters. I never felt that he liked Kim, and he turned Barbara into a sick joke.

All that love for Katie, and yet he wrote AWFUL story after AWFUL story for her and totally wasted any potential Simon/Katie ever had as a couple.

Can writer have a mid life crisis? Hogan sound like somebody that don't want to think he aging. So he write for the younger set. You know like when older people date younger people & dress young to deny they are getting up in age.

You know like when older people date younger people & dress young to deny they are getting up in age.

Can writer have a mid life crisis? Hogan sound like somebody that don't want to think he aging. So he write for the younger set. You know like when older people date younger people & dress young to deny they are getting up in age.

And yet his writing for the youngest set is often terrible.

I thought he did well with Emily for about a year or two, I really liked her with Hal, but that seemed to stop. The next story I remember for her was the big lust with the Chris recast from the Initiative.

I thought he did well with Emily for about a year or two, I really liked her with Hal, but that seemed to stop. The next story I remember for her was the big lust with the Chris recast from the Initiative.

After Hal was recast Hem wasn't the same.

After Hal was recast Hem wasn't the same.

I keep forgetting they recast him. I skipped a lot of those years. I guess by the time Ben did return for a while, Hal and Emily had split up.

After Marland's death, ATWT was a mess and it was Sheffer who (somewhat) put it back together. I have little doubt the show would have been axed far earlier if it had not been for him. Post-Sheffer, the show went right back to being [!@#$%^&*] and DK's "I shot my brother" story doesn't count. Sheffer wasn't perfect at ATWT, however, he made the show steady and there were ratings gains. I wish he would have done more with Lucinda but I liked his Rose story: basically, no writer will please every fan all the time.

As for his work at Y&R, no one knows for sure what stories he pens. All and all, the show isn't all that bad now and, most importantly, the ratings have not dropped. I think the average viewer is pretty desensitized to classic story as in the sort Bell wrote. TV has changed so much in the last two decades. In the 80's, viewers loved subtle shows like Cagney and Lacey; today, however, it is the blood and gore of CSI that brings in ratings: I have no idea why this is the case but twisted and jaded best sum up today's typical TV watcher. Why should soaps be any different? People seem to dig pathetic Patty's kiss of death and Ashley's burned up baby or, it would seem, according to the ratings.

I like Latham's Y&R better than what we are watching now but won't deny that Patty on the loose is campy fun. I floved the manner is which she yells at Emily's painting and is trying to killed Dr. P with a pillow. No, this is not emmy worthy work but can be a good in small amounts.

There are far worse hacks than Sheffer including Brodrick over at AMC and Bell on B&B.