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Linda Gottlieb article 1992

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I know this woman elicits strong feelings among some posters here.

Here's an article from 92.I think Connie Passalacqua(Marlena DeLaCroix was the writer)

When the daytime soap world gathers at the Sheraton New York Hotel tonight for the 19th annual Daytime Emmy Awards, the main schmooze for once won't be Susan Lucci's 12-time failure to win the best actress statuette. The buzz instead will be about the ABC soap opera "One Life to Live, " whose new producer, Linda Gottlieb, has been making a controversial attempt to revolutionize the stagnant daytime soap opera form.

Gottlieb, who produced the hit film "Dirty Dancing, " had no prior daytime soap experience when she took the job last July. In the insular world of daytime television, which traditionally promotes and hires from within, her name may as well be Fletcher Christian.

' "One Life to Live' is the anti-soap, " says Robert Rorke, senior editor of Soap Opera Digest. "Like a soap opera antihero, you never know what it's going to do next. "

Soap audiences used to perfect-looking actors and actresses have tuned into such scenes as one in which a bald man (Paul Bartel) defended a psychotic woman for murder; the key clue to that murder may have been provided by an even balder man (Wallace Shawn). In a world where it's de rigueur for soap hunks to be monosyllabic, "One Life to Live " characters quote Shakespeare and recite the poetry of Burns, Donne, Rossetti and Shelley. In a genre that spins on endless romances, fantasy and froth, one recent "OLTL " storyline hinged on a scene straight out of "The Snake Pit " -- one character's visit to the sanitarium where her sister grew up.

"I had hoped by the end of my stint that I would be able to do for the world of daytime what Steven Bochco did for nighttime TV, " says Gottlieb, referring to the writer-producer whose "Hill Street Blues " revolutionized the hour police drama. "He took a form that was mired in its own preconceptions and brought it into the modern world. He showed things that were rough and uneven, and that characters aren't gorgeous all the time. And that's what makes his shows seem alive. Look, I've hired a guy with a scar on his face (Mark Brettschneider, who plays teen rebel Jason Webb). "

That's just one of her changes. Gottlieb, who admits she had never watched a daytime soap before agreeing to take the helm of "One Life to Live, " says, "It's rare to have a chance to come in to something that you don't know anything about. Either it means you are going to fall on your face or you're free to rethink it. "

Soaps had never kept up with new technology, says Gottlieb, who has introduced film-like post-production techniques, including computerized music editing. Gottlieb envisions making music as intrinsic to the success of "One Life to Live " as it was to "Dirty Dancing. " She has already hired personal friends Judy Collins (to sing a love theme) and off-Broadway composer Elizabeth Swados (to score a location sequence). And she has also used such cult actors as Bartel ( "Eating Raoul ") and Shawn ( "My Dinner With Andre ") in guest roles.

"Why not get the best people working for this medium? We're reaching a ton of people. It's as if soaps in the past have been self-conscious adolescents saying, 'We're gawky; we'd better not go after the good-looking guys,' " she says in an interview in her office at "OLTL's " West Side studio.

Gottlieb's most valuable, if not radical, hire has been head writer Michael Malone, a former University of Pennsylvania professor and well-reviewed author of such complex novels as "Time's Witness " and the recent "Foolscap. " Most head writers are veterans who hop from show to show, but Malone, like Gottlieb, had no soap experience.

Not everyone is sold on her approach. "There are tried-and-true rules that make a soap work, " says Freeman Gunter, a managing editor of Soap Opera Weekly. "Gottlieb wants to reinvent the wheel, but the wheel's already been here for 40 years. Some think it's working just fine. "

Indeed, in Gottlieb's rush to innovate, she has cast aside the three crucial soap opera elements that have kept audiences addicted since the dawn of TV:

* Continuity: In an admirable attempt to pick up the slow pace of soaps, "One Life to Live " has done several short-term, close-ended storylines -- on such subjects as wife-beating and prejudice -- reminiscent to the arcs used on the prime-time drama "Wiseguy. " But these stories simply ended, leaving viewers free to zap to other soaps. "In soaps, continuity is the most important element in building ratings and audiences, " says Douglas Marland, head writer of CBS' "As the World Turns. "

* Familiarity: "What makes a soap work for people is the familiarity they feel with characters -- the predictability, " Gunter says. "They're shocked when they tune in and see a character acting like they're on a medication which doesn't agree with them. " Under Gottlieb, the heroic Viki Buchanan (played by Erika Slezak), the show's central focus for 23 years, was suddenly pushed to the back burner and was transformed from a kindly, liberal figure into a meddling mother-in-law.

* Likability: Soap audiences tune in every day to see characters they love or love to hate, no matter how stereotypical they seem. In an attempt to build more complex, lifelike characters, Malone's creations are many shades of gray.

In her defense, Gottlieb says she's not producing the show for the soap audience, but more from her own tastes and instincts.

As with any insurgent, there has been resistance toward Gottlieb in the soap industry. "She's perceived as arrogant for saying she can reinvent something that everyone else has been doing for so long, " Gunter says.

Others, however, feel that soap operas, whose formats haven't changed much in 40 years, desperately need a kick. "Soaps have never responded to the new competition presented by cable and video, " says Soap Opera Digest's Rorke. "Soap audiences also now include substantial percentages of men and college students as well as the traditional audience of homemakers. If Gottlieb is being dynamic and shaking things up, then good for her. "

And there is evidence that Gottlieb's gambles may be paying off, even if the soap was not nominated this year for an Emmy as best daytime serial. "One Life to Live " (seen weekdays at 1 p.m. on ABC, Channels 7, 3, 10 and 42) ranked 10th (out of 11) in the ratings when Gottlieb arrived last year and is now fifth. Still, that's not as high as it reached through most of the '80s, when it placed third or fourth.

Gottlieb says she's aware of the negative industry talk about her attempts. She shrugs: "You've just got to keep pushing the envelope. The great thing about soaps is if you fail one day, you can pick yourself up and try something else the next. "

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I think I read somewhere that ABC fired Jacqui Courtney not long before Rauch's arrival, because they knew he would not work on a show with her.

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IMDB has a Tyler McGillis. He must have been Brenda's kid brother? He seems OK. I have to admit my first thought after a few of his scenes was, "Who says there were no gays in Llanview before Billy Douglas?"

Danny Zuko will be very angry that his friends are dealing drugs. And what's with the tassels on their leather jackets? Let me guess -- Becky Lee Abbott went through an unfortunate country rock phase (since at this time, stalwarts like Becky Lee and Emmylou Harris were being frozen out of the industry) and to help pay her bills, she sold dope to schoolkids on the side. No wonder she was so evil when she came back to Llanview.

I know she's not exactly a Strasser or a HBS, but doesn't that girl playing Andy seem much better than Wendee Pratt? Or am I being unfair to Wendee because she spent two years chronically depressed, wandering through idiot plots and nostril flaring?

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You know I didn't realize Andy was a recast--I hated her nostril flaring (something Kim Delaney seems to not be able to help either, but it doesn't bug me as much :P )

I think this scene just shows how misguided that final era for Rauch was--all the social issue stories he suddenly put in the show (the rap one being the famous one) really come off as... silly.

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I didn't know she was a recast either, until I read about it online years ago. I did not like her. I think the first time I realized how much I disliked her was when she was framed by the dirty cop Manzo over a gang shooting, and instead of being upset, I would think, "That Manzo is kind of sexy." I guess it didn't help when she got great moments like being HELD HOSTAGE WITH A HAIRBRUSH and literally clinging to Antonio's legs as he huffed out of the room. If Frons ever sees that clip he will probably squeal.

I do appreciate the idea of drugs being bad, but all the stuff with Viki and "OMG I didn't know we had drugs in Llanview!!!" is hilarious. I'm sure Niki hung out with the best dealers in Llanview. And those attempts at thugs, who look a bit gay pornish (complete with going in the limo and telling their boss they will do whatever he wants), and the view of Erika's very nice teeth as she screams at her hair being pulled, or whatever...

For late Rauch I prefer the DuAnn stuff. There's the clip of DuAnn facing off with Viki and Viki uses this fake Southern accent to push DuAnn's buttons. "You get that, DuAnn, HONEY?"

Late Rauch Viki seemed like she was always about to whoop some ass.

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I'm sorry but that first Andy scared the [!@#$%^&*] out of me. I loved Wendee Pratt, I was a shameless Antonio and Andy fan. Fun fact: it was KDLR who asked JFP not to kill Andy off when he returned, as the writers planned to have Andy killed in the line of duty.

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If you want to talk about gay pr0n you need look no further than Gary Tomlin's run as executive producer. He hired so many would-be Corbin Fisher models. And he had RJ basically running a gay bar, complete with topless male nights and WiFi access (Gary was before his time).

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I'm sorry but that first Andy scared the [!@#$%^&*] out of me. I loved Wendee Pratt, I was a shameless Antonio and Andy fan. Fun fact: it was KDLR who asked JFP not to kill Andy off when he returned, as the writers planned to have Andy killed in the line of duty.

She does look very vampire-esque, it's an odd look. I sort of like it for some reason.

I never liked Antonio so I guess my opinion of her goes with him, especially the way they were written around the time of the dragging.

I'm surprised JFP didn't have Andy run off with her partner or whatever, like they did with Jagger on PC. I guess if she had another opportunity to kill off a female character, she would.

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If you want to talk about gay pr0n you need look no further than Gary Tomlin's run as executive producer. He hired so many would-be Corbin Fisher models. And he had RJ basically running a gay bar, complete with topless male nights and WiFi access (Gary was before his time).

He wasn't very subtle, that's for sure. I'm always grateful for that year or so of Teddy Sears. The weird Seths, not so much.

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Actually, that is exactly what JFP did. Andy had an affair with her partner. I was mortified.

Teddy Sears and Brandon Routh (Seth #1/Superman, Last Son Of Krypton) were both hired by Gary on a whim based on their auditions for other roles, while Eddie Alderson got Matthew due to cast lobbying since he was a delight to have around. At the time it seemed you could walk onto the set and get a role, complete with ol' Gary saying you were "irreplaceable." Even Erika Page was irreplaceable. It was not terribly well-written but Gary did love the show, as (IMO) RC and FV do now.

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I've heard Gary Tomlin's run at OLTL described as the equivalent of a Chippendales revue.

And almost as embarrassing at times. I wanted to join the Witness Protection Program when I was at home for summer break and my mother walked in on me watching "Babes Behind Bars," which, though memorable, was really not OLTL's finest hour in retrospect. She came in when Ilene Kristen was singing, and Ilene, who I love, is really an acquired taste. My mother thought it was just another day on the show; "WTF is this?" At no point during the hour could I turn around and say, "Actually, Mother, One Life to Live has a proud history of socially conscious storytelling; are you familiar with the gang rape of Marty Saybrooke? Oh, look, another musical number with the prisoners."

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I've heard Gary Tomlin's run at OLTL described as the equivalent of a Chippendales revue.

That's a good description.

The only thing is you only want to see so much of these hairless men who have big muscles but look like they're all for show.

I still wonder what happened to the show in 2002. 2001 wasn't perfect but Tomlin and Broderick/Whitesell had done some decent stories, some with potential. Then it all went to pot. Even all those years later I still wonder what might have been with RJ and his daughter Keri, especially without that breathy blonde woman who was Keri's mother and nailed Antonio (before knowing who he was) during one of his breakdowns.

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