That girl was fierce! I hope they don't water her down in the future like most female character on ABC Daytime.

Could you picture Marcy Walker's Liza and Zach as a couple?

That girl was fierce! I hope they don't water her down in the future like most female character on ABC Daytime.

Could you picture Marcy Walker's Liza and Zach as a couple?

I absolutely love Natalia but I fear that Shannon Kane and JR Martinez are next in line to get the Aiden Turner treatment.

I could see Marcy Walker's Liza with Zach if it was Lorraine Broderick's (1995-1997) Liza. But definitely not the watered down and frumpy Liza that followed. Actually I recall that when TK first joined the show it was said that he would be tried out with both Eva laRue and Marcy Walker. But then Marcy was let go.

I absolutely love Natalia but I fear that Shannon Kane and JR Martinez are next in line to get the Aiden Turner treatment.

I'm not getting that feeling. I think they'll make the move.

I guess I'm the only one who simply didn't get that spider thing. Why would a cadet intentionally vandalize a bathroom mirror? Weird, not to mention that awkward speech.

I guess I'm the only one who simply didn't get that spider thing. Why would a cadet intentionally vandalize a bathroom mirror? Weird, not to mention that awkward speech.

Just for shock value. This show is all about shock value. Shock and no substance. Although I could see something like that happening on CSI Miami or NYPD Blue.

Though, Natalia does have 7 years of bad luck now.

Natalia looked crazy...and I loved it! She looked gangsta in that moment as if she's one you dont want to mess with. I wonder what type of trouble she got herself into before coming to PV

Why is Ryan still alive?

Why is Ryan still alive?

BEST. QUESTION. EVER.

I don't care if it was illogical or not, Natalia was EPIC. She's the new future of this show officially for me.

Okay, again. It's not about her performance or anything... I DIDN'T GET THE SCENE'S INTENTION!

Apparently nobody else gets it since it keeps coming back to Natalia's performance.

For me, it was basically...

Natalia: I'm Frankie's sister.

Madison: Good for you.

Natalia: Creepy, crawly, crawly, creepy! Itsy Bitsy Spider! Oooh, look at that...!! ((SMASH!!!!!)) Don't you see it, too?

Huh?!

Continuing on with the Hubbards... YAY! Jesse's abusing, not only his power, but little blonde women, now! I'm so proud of this strong representation. It's a shame I have to cheat on AMC with OLTL to get what this show is sorely lacking... likeable, rootable black characters.

Erica doesn't like labels, huh? No kidding. She can't call herself a grandmother or acknowledge her grandchildren -- so I'm not surprised she can't label this stomach-churning relationship with her daughter's ex, and grandson's father.

And while I'm complaining -- and complaining about Egoica, can Cameron and Susan puh-leeze quit it with the showboating spins and lifts that come out of nowhere? They have, like four months of Dancing with the Stars combined between them and they're all of a sudden professionals? Let me see Erica doing the Cupid Shuffle and I'll give her some credit. You can tell how some people think twirling in circles constitutes good dance skills (Erica as well as the annoying extras). No... it's just good equilibrium.

Uh-oh... Denise Vasi's playing mad again!! Daytime Emmys 2010... this one's in the bag!

Ryan, Ryan, Ryan... overplaying your hand with Annie is the stupidest move, like, ever! Keep on jerking with that girl's emotions -- as if what you did all throughout 2008 wasn't enough. No, seriously! Ryan, PLEASE keep jerking with Annie's emotions and messing with her mind! Maybe you'll make her so psycho she'll kill you dead... which would be one of the sanest acts she could ever perform!

Erica... yeah, we're back to you. Judging Zach? Really? You're practically spread eagle for your grandson's father while your daughter is "in prison," but you're going to judge Zach for kissing Liza? No, darling. Leave the judgment to me. I'm not kissing anybody nor do I have any grandchildren whose fathers I'm lusting over.

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BEST. QUESTION. EVER.

I don't care if it was illogical or not, Natalia was EPIC. She's the new future of this show officially for me.

Another question, Why is Jake still alive???? He such a maggot.

Edited September 25, 200916 yr by reallyhateskateonlost

Another question, Why is Jake still alive???? He such a maggot.

I think Annie should shoot Ryan... then do an honor killing and shoot Jake.

Even that baby doesn't like him. Also, why was he holding that baby like that? ALSO, why did he always let that baby's pacifier fall out and just let it fall to the floor? I hate it when it's clear that these actors haven't a clue how to handle a baby.

Edited September 25, 200916 yr by R Sinclair

Just for shock value. This show is all about shock value. Shock and no substance. Although I could see something like that happening on CSI Miami or NYPD Blue.

Though, Natalia does have 7 years of bad luck now.

Yeah, unfortunately AMC has been all about shock value since McTavish returned.

Okay, again. It's not about her performance or anything... I DIDN'T GET THE SCENE'S INTENTION!

Apparently nobody else gets it since it keeps coming back to Natalia's performance.

For me, it was basically...

Natalia: I'm Frankie's sister.

Madison: Good for you.

Natalia: Creepy, crawly, crawly, creepy! Itsy Bitsy Spider! Oooh, look at that...!! ((SMASH!!!!!)) Don't you see it, too?

Huh?!

Continuing on with the Hubbards... YAY! Jesse's abusing, not only his power, but little blonde women, now! I'm so proud of this strong representation. It's a shame I have to cheat on AMC with OLTL to get what this show is sorely lacking... likeable, rootable black characters.

Erica doesn't like labels, huh? No kidding. She can't call herself a grandmother or acknowledge her grandchildren -- so I'm not surprised she can't label this stomach-churning relationship with her daughter's ex, and grandson's father.

And while I'm complaining -- and complaining about Egoica, can Cameron and Susan puh-leeze quit it with the showboating spins and lifts that come out of nowhere? They have, like four months of Dancing with the Stars combined between them and they're all of a sudden professionals? Let me see Erica doing the Cupid Shuffle and I'll give her some credit. You can tell how some people think twirling in circles constitutes good dance skills (Erica as well as the annoying extras). No... it's just good equilibrium.

Uh-oh... Denise Vasi's playing mad again!! Daytime Emmys 2010... this one's in the bag!

Ryan, Ryan, Ryan... overplaying your hand with Annie is the stupidest move, like, ever! Keep on jerking with that girl's emotions -- as if what you did all throughout 2008 wasn't enough. No, seriously! Ryan, PLEASE keep jerking with Annie's emotions and messing with her mind! Maybe you'll make her so psycho she'll kill you dead... which would be one of the sanest acts she could ever perform!

Erica... yeah, we're back to you. Judging Zach? Really? You're practically spread eagle for your grandson's father while your daughter is "in prison," but you're going to judge Zach for kissing Liza? No, darling. Leave the judgment to me. I'm not kissing anybody nor do I have any grandchildren whose fathers I'm lusting over.

My guess is that Natalia was calling Madison a black widow and breaking the mirror as a threat that she's going to kill Madison. I'm not sure of the intent, though, since that scene was a carryover from Rebecca Taylor's script in the previous episode. It annoys me how often one group of characters declares someone evil as the Martins/Chandlers do with David, Zendall and their clan did it with Adam before Stuart's death and somehow we're meant to root for them against that person. The Hubbards constantly attacking Madison just makes me wish she would destroy them all!

I think Annie should shoot Ryan... then do an honor killing and shoot Jake.

Even that baby doesn't like him. Also, why was he holding that baby like that? ALSO, why did he always let that baby's pacifier fall out and just let it fall to the floor? I hate it when it's clear that these actors haven't a clue how to handle a baby.

I don't care who kills Ryan as long as somebody does soon.

I liked RPG in the role when he first came on, but this current story with Jake constantly whining about David has gotten old and RPG clearly has never held a child in his life!

My guess is that Natalia was calling Madison a black widow and breaking the mirror as a threat that she's going to kill Madison. I'm not sure of the intent, though, since that scene was a carryover from Rebecca Taylor's script in the previous episode. It annoys me how often one group of characters declares someone evil as the Martins/Chandlers do with David, Zendall and their clan did it with Adam before Stuart's death and somehow we're meant to root for them against that person. The Hubbards constantly attacking Madison just makes me wish she would destroy them all!

Oh, that's right! Rebecca Taylor wrote the original scene the day before.

It also annoys me, the whole "[bLANK] is mean to us! [bLANK] is pure EVIL!" As if these people are so saintly and pure that the only reason someone could hate them is because that person is eeeeeevil!