10 minutes ago, P.J. said:

It's just odd timing, given that Dinah had just returned and was deep in her psychotic mess with Cassie and Edmund, and Ross was also playing Daddy figure to Lizzie and even looking out for Michelle. 

The budget squeeze is on---I scanned about six months worth of episodes and Ed, Marah and Shayne are still in the opening credits and not on the show. I could swear it's even Aubrey Dollar's Marina in the credits, while Mandy Bruno's in the role and dating Danny. 

I could've come up with about a thousand ways to save money other than putting Jerry on recurring--but you don't know contract situations and he's making more money than Frankie D on a per episode basis, I'm sure.

I'm pretty sure Jerry said he would've stayed on recurring. I don't know how the OLTL came about. But it must've been quick.

It came about because of Mark Derwin. He was at OLTL then & of course he knew Jerry. They were in really dire straits & had been for awhile. They very badly needed a recast for Clint & apparently had had absolutely NO LUCK in coming up with a recast. Mark basically said to them that Jerry could do the job & that they would be pleased if they would just give him a chance. OLTL called Jerry the next day. They talked. He read. Everyone immediately got on board. The rest as they say, is history,

I get it that they had to ask actors to take pay cuts & they also had to move some people off of contract. I just hated that we lost Jerry. And, also, the way it happened, yes, fast as you said, we got only some lousy closure about a plane crash & no body. That was it for Ross, too. 

I will say only one more thing & that is it shows what an excellent actor Jerry was that he could play two such totally different roles, Ross & Clint, you would think had NOTHING in common. 

8 hours ago, Paul Raven said:

In the cases of Amanda and Justin's quick exits,perhaps it was the actors wanting to leave. I'm pretty sure that was the case for Tom O'Rourke who after 6 years wanted to try for primetime in LA.

Actually, @Paul Raven, I think Tom O'Rourke was fired or let go.  I remember reading an interview with Grant Aleksander where he said he was livid about the news but that O'Rourke calmed him down and said, in effect, "That's just the way the business works."

@Khan .According to his widow he was indeed fired.

She also states that soon after he was offered a part on another P&G part but turned it down, without her knowledge.

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11 minutes ago, Paul Raven said:

She also states that soon after he was offered a part on another P&G part but turned it down, without her knowledge.

I'd love to know which other P&G show offered him a part.  Something tells me it could've been for Lloyd Kendall on SFT, but maybe not, lol.

1 hour ago, Contessa Donatella said:

 

I will say only one more thing & that is it shows what an excellent actor Jerry was that he could play two such totally different roles, Ross & Clint, you would think had NOTHING in common. 

My first thought is---Jerry has to audition? Seriously? 

My second---that they kept the door open in case Jerry wanted to come back. I know he'd said he wanted to be a part of the last episodes somehow, (as a ghost, whatever..) but it didn't work out. He lived close to where they shot the final scenes and could see them from his boat.

4 minutes ago, P.J. said:

My first thought is---Jerry has to audition? Seriously? 

My second---that they kept the door open in case Jerry wanted to come back. I know he'd said he wanted to be a part of the last episodes somehow, (as a ghost, whatever..) but it didn't work out. He lived close to where they shot the final scenes and could see them from his boat.

Honestly, I think mostly everyone has to audition, or at least read. May not have to do the whole screen test shebang BUT it's nothing to be ashamed of, it's just a thing. 

Maybe. But the way the east coast soaps used to trade personnel back and forth, you'd think a lot of staff might've known him.

At least Tom O'Rourke got some kind of exit. I swear, Eve just disappeared one day.

 

2 minutes ago, P.J. said:

But the way the east coast soaps used to trade personnel back and forth

The P&G shows amongst each other yes, but I'm not sure how much actor/producer/writer swapping there was between P&G and ABC back in the day.

17 minutes ago, P.J. said:

Maybe. But the way the east coast soaps used to trade personnel back and forth, you'd think a lot of staff might've known him.

At least Tom O'Rourke got some kind of exit. I swear, Eve just disappeared one day.

 

I'm sure there were people who knew Jerry by reputation but reputation does not get you hired. I know they say it is who you know, but it's really not, it's what you know. 

10 hours ago, Paul Raven said:

In the cases of Amanda and Justin's quick exits,perhaps it was the actors wanting to leave. I'm pretty sure that was the case for Tom O'Rourke who after 6 years wanted to try for primetime in LA.

And perhaps Kathleen Cullen wanted a break after years in the role. 

Kathleen seems to have been let go. I am not as sure about O'Rourke. I think someone here mentioned a story once of him running around in relief after getting the news (or something along those lines) so who knows.

2 hours ago, Contessa Donatella said:

It came about because of Mark Derwin. He was at OLTL then & of course he knew Jerry. They were in really dire straits & had been for awhile. They very badly needed a recast for Clint & apparently had had absolutely NO LUCK in coming up with a recast. Mark basically said to them that Jerry could do the job & that they would be pleased if they would just give him a chance. OLTL called Jerry the next day. They talked. He read. Everyone immediately got on board. The rest as they say, is history,

I get it that they had to ask actors to take pay cuts & they also had to move some people off of contract. I just hated that we lost Jerry. And, also, the way it happened, yes, fast as you said, we got only some lousy closure about a plane crash & no body. That was it for Ross, too. 

I will say only one more thing & that is it shows what an excellent actor Jerry was that he could play two such totally different roles, Ross & Clint, you would think had NOTHING in common. 

That's interesting. I thought Mark was off OLTL by that time. Maybe he was still friendly enough with them to make a recommendation.

I loved Jerry but his Clint never worked for me. 

@Khan I was thinking Lloyd Kendall as well. Was there a role om ATWT around that time that would have suitedd Tom?

I came across his widow Marcy's blog about his life, career and marriage several years ago. I recall it being a loving tribute.

Today, trying to find out whether he voluntarily left GL I came across it again.

But now, as a result of her contact with a psychic interpreting her dreams she has a completely different perspective on their life together.

It's certainly interesting if not a little bizarre.

If you're interested go to marcycasterline.com

1 hour ago, DRW50 said:

Kathleen seems to have been let go. I am not as sure about O'Rourke. I think someone here mentioned a story once of him running around in relief after getting the news (or something along those lines) so who knows.

That's interesting. I thought Mark was off OLTL by that time. Maybe he was still friendly enough with them to make a recommendation.

I loved Jerry but his Clint never worked for me. 

Yeah, I think he reached out by phone, not still there. IOW, you are correct. 

14 minutes ago, Paul Raven said:

@Khan I was thinking Lloyd Kendall as well. Was there a role om ATWT around that time that would have suitedd Tom?

 

What about Barbara's smarmy brother Rick?  It's too bad they had killed Dan Stewart off--I can see him being a perfect Dan.

Tom actually was briefly on ATWT as the Police Commissioner. I think he suspended Jack for seeing Carly while married to JuliaI.

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Peter Haskell was already portraying the role of Lloyd Kendall on Search for Tomorrow when Tom O'Rourke was fired from Guiding Light. Haskell joined Search around June 1983. An age-appropriate role on another P&G show during that time is Carl Hutchins on Another World. Another possibility is Raymond Speer on As the World Turns, a role that went to Donald May.

3 hours ago, robbwolff said:

Peter Haskell was already portraying the role of Lloyd Kendall on Search for Tomorrow when Tom O'Rourke was fired from Guiding Light. Haskell joined Search around June 1983. An age-appropriate role on another P&G show during that time is Carl Hutchins on Another World. Another possibility is Raymond Speer on As the World Turns, a role that went to Donald May.

I'd bet the role was Raymond Spear.  That one certain seems to suit O'Rourke's acting style the best.