5 minutes ago, Vee said:

Is the new '66 stuff today material that was already up? I've already been revisiting that recently, a few people seem to have posted it over the years. I guess it can't be, since spooky Robin (Gillian Spencer) is in the material I'm watching.

Don Scardino's Johnny is a classic example of the poor little (sometimes rich) adolescent boy Agnes Nixon returned to so often - all the way down to Eric Nelsen's A.J. Chandler on AMC 2.0. And he's adorable. It's odd for me, knowing him best from Cruising.

I think it was such a huge blunder for GL to kill off Bill Bauer so casually (twice). Both incarnations I've seen, Ed Bryce and Lyle Sudrow's equally weak, boyish version, are fascinatingly flawed patriarchs.

More fool him, if so. Lezlie Dalton was fascinating to me. I will say the big scenes where she leaves Phillip to Jackie at the end of '80? '81? are absolutely shattering, even with the recast Jackie instead of Cindy Pickett. Just beautiful work by everyone.

I had forgotten Mike Bauer was on AW. What did he get up to over there?

Mike worked with John Randolph and flirted with John’s wife, Pat. 

I love seeing more of Cindy Pickett and Lezlie Dalton, especially in scenes together. I remember Pickett saying when she first came on the show (1976) that Jackie was written as a rich bitch. She said that since she didn't have a mean bone in her body it didn't last long and the Dobsons started really writing for her and makde Jackie multi dimensional (with Phillip etc...). I remember reading old 1976 synopsis where Sara questioned Justin how he could marry a woman like Jacqueline etc...

50 minutes ago, SoapDope said:

I love seeing more of Cindy Pickett and Lezlie Dalton, especially in scenes together. I remember Pickett saying when she first came on the show (1976) that Jackie was written as a rich bitch. She said that since she didn't have a mean bone in her body it didn't last long and the Dobsons started really writing for her and makde Jackie multi dimensional (with Phillip etc...). I remember reading old 1976 synopsis where Sara questioned Justin how he could marry a woman like Jacqueline etc...

Having Jackie as sympathetic was a much better idea, as it adds so much more of an ache to the story - attaching herself to Alan for the sake of her son, a secret no one else knew, and yet losing Philip all over again anyway. The moments where she offers support to Elizabeth in spite of Elizabeth having all she ever wanted for herself are achingly beautiful.

1 hour ago, P.J. said:

In the back of my head, I knew Ross was manipulative and cutthroat, but it's different seeing it in action. 

I remember Adam and Roger always having this fraught relationship, I just would've thought that by that time, Adam would've had a clearer image of Roger's manipulations.

And it's always a joy to see more of Cindy Pickett.

Adam always feeling guilty about making Roger who he was does make some sense for the blindness, until he just couldn't anymore (and unlike many others, never forgave Roger).

3 hours ago, SoapDope said:

Someone posted on youtube that Marland did not want to write for the Elizabeth character and wanted her off the show when he took over. I think he hated that entire storyline.  

That would explain why he wrote Philip out. 

The poor recasting of Jackie, writing out Elizabeth, etc. took so much out of a story that should have been at a peak. 

 

Sorry if this was already put up (I searched but that isn't always enough) - this Italian channel interviewed a number of alum. I think the Frank Beaty interview may have been posted here before, but there are some others, including a few who don't get as much attention, like Carolyn Ann Clark (Lesley Ann) and Katell Pleven (Dana). I do see that Clark was on Locher Room, but I don't think Pleven ever was.

I skimmed through both a little. Clark gets some dates wrong but that's understandable given how many years have passed. She also mentioned that they killed Lesley Ann to make viewers feel sorry for Warren. Whatever attempts at making him sympathetic the show had clearly didn't last long as that character was probably one of the biggest haters on GL.

 

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I always viewed Jackie as a gold digger to be a result of being spoiled by her dad and wanting to be a Mrs MD.  Plus, she was still angry/resentful at Justin for cheating on her.

In a weird way, I think Marland killing Jackie off was the ultimate cherry on top of this tragic tale.  She died never ever getting to claim Philip as her son and Philip would never get to love his real mother.

It was karma because her actions were to blame for this whole mess.  This was a moral tale showing how emotion and spite in the moment can have far reaching fall out.

The Dobsons kick started a story in the 1970s, that had long term effects were felt all the way to the final episode of the show 30+ years later.

9 hours ago, DRW50 said:

Sorry if this was already put up (I searched but that isn't always enough) - this Italian channel interviewed a number of alum. I think the Frank Beaty interview may have been posted here before, but there are some others, including a few who don't get as much attention, like Carolyn Ann Clark (Lesley Ann) and Katell Pleven (Dana). I do see that Clark was on Locher Room, but I don't think Pleven ever was.

I skimmed through both a little. Clark gets some dates wrong but that's understandable given how many years have passed. She also mentioned that they killed Lesley Ann to make viewers feel sorry for Warren. Whatever attempts at making him sympathetic the show had clearly didn't last long as that character was probably one of the biggest haters on GL.

 

Thanks for posting these interviews.

13 hours ago, anthonymolchan said:

Mike worked with John Randolph and flirted with John’s wife, Pat. 

Well, if given the chance, who wouldn't flirt with BeverlyP?!!!

2 minutes ago, Contessa Donatella said:

Well, if given the chance, who wouldn't flirt with BeverlyP?!!!

If I 'm not mistaken, Mike dated John Randolph's daughter, Lee.  And he nearly had an affair with Pat (Lee's step-mother).  

8 minutes ago, Mona Kane Croft said:

If I 'm not mistaken, Mike dated John Randolph's daughter, Lee.  And he nearly had an affair with Pat (Lee's step-mother).  

Now, Lee, she was really a "troublesome daughter." But, why are you & I discussing AW here in the GL topic?! Which reminds me ... 

13 minutes ago, Contessa Donatella said:

Now, Lee, she was really a "troublesome daughter." But, why are you & I discussing AW here in the GL topic?! Which reminds me ... 

Because Mike Bauer was a GL character. 

8 minutes ago, Mona Kane Croft said:

Because Mike Bauer was a GL character. 

You’re right about Lee. But the flirtation with Pat stands out to me more. 
 

If Don Stewart had played Mike on AW, it would’ve been his first pairing with Barbara Rodell, Lee. 

7 minutes ago, anthonymolchan said:

You’re right about Lee. But the flirtation with Pat stands out to me more. 
 

If Don Stewart had played Mike on AW, it would’ve been his first pairing with Barbara Rodell, Lee. 

I agree.  I think Mike's "almost affair" with Pat was the major storyline, and his dating Lee was just used to keep him in Pat's orbit.   

Years ago, I read an old article where Douglas Marland discussed GH, which he had just joined after writing THE DOCTORS.  Among other things, he complained about the PJ/Steven Lars storyline, saying it was too coincidental that Peter and Diana Taylor would adopt Jeff and Heather Webber's baby, even though the adoption had occurred outside Port Charles.

I wonder whether he felt the same about the storyline surrounding Philip's origins.  IIRC, the Marlers and Spauldings all were living in Chicago at the time of Philip's birth and "adoption." Yet, it just so happened that Elizabeth and Jackie shared the same obstetrician (Dr. LaCrosse, maybe the best last name I've ever heard on any soap, lol); that Jackie's baby would be available (in Switzerland!) right at the same time that Alan and Elizabeth's own baby was stillborn (also in Switzerland!) and that all four would end up living in the same town again years later.

7 minutes ago, Khan said:

Years ago, I read an old article where Douglas Marland discussed GH, which he had just joined after writing THE DOCTORS.  Among other things, he complained about the PJ/Steven Lars storyline, saying it was too coincidental that Peter and Diana Taylor would adopt Jeff and Heather Webber's baby, even though the adoption had occurred outside Port Charles.

I wonder whether he felt the same about the storyline surrounding Philip's origins.  IIRC, the Marlers and Spauldings all were living in Chicago at the time of Philip's birth and "adoption." Yet, it just so happened that Elizabeth and Jackie shared the same obstetrician (Dr. LaCrosse, maybe the best last name I've ever heard on any soap, lol); that Jackie's baby would be available (in Switzerland!) right at the same time that Alan and Elizabeth's own baby was stillborn (also in Switzerland!) and that all four would end up living in the same town again years later.

Wow, Phillip's birth, adoption, etc. really seems like a HUGE coincidence.  Both couples were in three different locations concurrently and coincidentally -- Chicago, then Switzerland, then Springfield.  How likely would that be?

1 hour ago, Mona Kane Croft said:

Because Mike Bauer was a GL character. 

Mona, rhetorical!