Mitch is back at posting SFT! Seems like we'll be able to watch Sunny's Acquaintance Rape Storyline in full!

 

 

Wow! The episode were Sunny is raped is so intense. I've never seen it before, as with most pre and post AOL Classic Soap Search. Marcia McCabe gives an amazing performance! You can really feel Sunny's pain. Emmy worthy for sure. Seeing these really makes me angry that Hogan and Sunny were dumped by the writers to come, they really should have been end game. 

 

10 hours ago, cody_1990 said:

Wow! The episode were Sunny is raped is so intense. I've never seen it before, as with most pre and post AOL Classic Soap Search. Marcia McCabe gives an amazing performance! You can really feel Sunny's pain. Emmy worthy for sure. Seeing these really makes me angry that Hogan and Sunny were dumped by the writers to come, they really should have been end game. 

I appreciate and enjoy immensley the work of Marcia McCabe, but Sunny is one of those characters who most writers just couldn't find the right place for. In that respect, she reminds me of Ariane Zucker's Nicole, an interesting character played by a talent actress that often has an aimless character despite the utility of the characters they are playing.

The situation with Hogan / Sunny is complicated. David Forsythe departs in August, 1984, or thereabouts, after the show brought on Victoria Windsor, Hogan's ex, as the third wheel for the triangle. I think they may have briefly toy with the idea of a Victoria / Sunny / Lloyd situation, but the show really struggled to figure out what to do with Liza wihtout Travis so it seems like, for a moment, they shift to Lloyd / Liza / Stephanie playing on the rivalry between Stephanie and Liza that Lee / Tomlin developed when Liza started to handle Travis' part of the TV station that he had inherited from his father. Sunny dangles. 

I don't hate the Hogan / Liza pairing as much as others do under Mayer / Braxton, but I don't appreciate their characterization of Sunny. I could see how Sunny would get to the romantic delusion about Hogan, but I'm not sure I could see the angle involving Sunny's suicide. I appreciated Tomlin playing Sunny / Hogan again briefly in October, 1985, during the poisoned water storyline, but there was just so much focus on Liza / Hogan. It's a shame really. 

And then, at some point, they shift to Hogan/Patti and Bela/Sunny, which I'm sure drove fans REALLY insane, lol.

1 hour ago, Khan said:

And then, at some point, they shift to Hogan/Patti and Bela/Sunny, which I'm sure drove fans REALLY insane, lol.

I can't remember who it was who said Bela seemed more like a gay best friend than a boyfriend.

23 hours ago, DRW50 said:

I can't remember who it was who said Bela seemed more like a gay best friend than a boyfriend.

I mean he was Also Elliot Dorn I can see that lol

Gary Tomlin was doing a very admirable job during his first stint on SFT. His last episode is March 16, 1984 and Jeanne Glynn shares co head duties with Madeline David for three months before Caroline Franz comes in to replace Madeline (then Franz and Glynn are fired with Franz leaving mid February and Glynn writing five more weeks before Mayer/Braxton are brought in with Nicholson as producer at end of March).  And they constantly rotated script writers. P&G did the opposite with Edge in 83 when they should have fired Sheldon and/or Nicholson but kept Sheldon for 18 months. I now think Gary was moved by P&G and/or NBC to assist Culliton on AW. Gary was near his one year (May) anniversary when he was moved.  What a mistake. Richard and Gary didn't last on AW even though they had some high points. I also appreciate Ellen Barrett who came in after Joanna Lee's disastrous six month run (I think Joanna got fired for the live episode stunt?). Ellen was working well with Gary for five months although I don't like her next several months with Glynn/Franz but it wasn't totally awful. I don't understand how they let Sue Scannell go; they should have made her a long lost McCleary instead of bringing in Adair and Justine (who I couldn't stand; such bad casting).  We always blame writers for the upheavals etc, but the networks and owners effed with these shows constantly as we read with McTavish's book on another thread.

14 hours ago, VelekaCarruthers said:

Gary Tomlin was doing a very admirable job during his first stint on SFT. His last episode is March 16, 1984 and Jeanne Glynn shares co head duties with Madeline David for three months before Caroline Franz comes in to replace Madeline (then Franz and Glynn are fired with Franz leaving mid February and Glynn writing five more weeks before Mayer/Braxton are brought in with Nicholson as producer at end of March).  And they constantly rotated script writers. P&G did the opposite with Edge in 83 when they should have fired Sheldon and/or Nicholson but kept Sheldon for 18 months. I now think Gary was moved by P&G and/or NBC to assist Culliton on AW. Gary was near his one year (May) anniversary when he was moved.  What a mistake. Richard and Gary didn't last on AW even though they had some high points. I also appreciate Ellen Barrett who came in after Joanna Lee's disastrous six month run (I think Joanna got fired for the live episode stunt?). Ellen was working well with Gary for five months although I don't like her next several months with Glynn/Franz but it wasn't totally awful. I don't understand how they let Sue Scannell go; they should have made her a long lost McCleary instead of bringing in Adair and Justine (who I couldn't stand; such bad casting).  We always blame writers for the upheavals etc, but the networks and owners effed with these shows constantly as we read with McTavish's book on another thread.

After Tomlin left as HW, he then directs for SFT.

On 2/23/2025 at 4:48 AM, rsclassicfanforever said:

Does anyone know where to find all the AOL episodes from 1984-1986? Or somebody has them and would share?

 

I have all of them and will upload if they are not already on YouTube.

25 minutes ago, GymnastGuy said:

After Tomlin left as HW, he then directs for SFT.

Tomlin & Goutman, began acting, tried writing, ended up directing. Goutman went on to illustrate the Peter Principle, where one is promoted to the level of their eventual incompetence.

25 minutes ago, GymnastGuy said:

I have all of them and will upload if they are not already on YouTube.

When you do please mark them as that, okay?

Also i've seen people asking for them other places, too, one for instance, on Discord  where digital file traders hang out. If you let us know when & about your uploading, I will post it there. 

Each one, teach one, and all that folderol.

 

Edited March 18Mar 18 by Contessa Donatella

7 minutes ago, Contessa Donatella said:

Tomlin & Goutman, began acting, tried writing, ended up directing. Goutman went on to illustrate the Peter Principle, where one is promoted to the level of their eventual incompetence.

When you do please mark them as that, okay?

Also i've seen people asking for them other places, too, one for instance, on Discord  where digital file traders hang out. If you let us know when & about your uploading, I will post it there. 

Each one, teach one, and all that folderol.

 

You want me to mark them as AOL?

Just now, GymnastGuy said:

You want me to mark them as AOL?

Exactly so! 

April 2, 1984-In today's episode the role of Stephanie Wyatt will be played by Louise Shaffer.

2 hours ago, GymnastGuy said:

After Tomlin left as HW, he then directs for SFT.

I have all of them and will upload if they are not already on YouTube.

This is absolutely amazing. I can't thank you enough. I've been dreaming of watching these episodes for years. 

4 minutes ago, GymnastGuy said:

April 2, 1984-In today's episode the role of Stephanie Wyatt will be played by Louise Shaffer.

She is on FB & stops in my group there from time to time. She is a card. Very interesting, tells stories about her time on different shows. Also, she is a published author.