Members MarkH Posted July 24, 2009 Members Share Posted July 24, 2009 Despite naysayers elsewhere, I suspect you are right. That threesome/quad SELLS SODs (obviously) more than any other soap characters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DeeeDee Posted July 24, 2009 Members Share Posted July 24, 2009 Yes! The absences of Jill & Nikki are horrible. But this the same Daytime climate that lets Genie Francis, Julia Barr & Martha Byrne walk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DeeeDee Posted July 24, 2009 Members Share Posted July 24, 2009 Ashley on B&B was Ashley. Ashley on Y&R is SabrinaLite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Y&RWorldTurner Posted July 24, 2009 Author Members Share Posted July 24, 2009 I posted this in the episode thread, but it's probably a better fit here... I could possibly in some weird way understand if Amber had sex with Deacon to free Daniel. But that wasn't simply the case, it wasn't enough that Amber simply has sex with Deacon, but he had to impose his "terms" on her and the sex they were to have. This made it all worse. Also, maybe, possibly, I could have had less resistance to this story and episode had so much misogyny not been apart of this show the way it currently is. And, had Sheffer not pulled a similar situation over at DAYS with EJ/Sami, I could have taken it as a simple mistake or misguided intentions. However, the fact is, one of this show's HW's tried a similar situation before and it backfired on his ass. Surely, these people never heard about learning from their mistakes. Then there's "my vision and my show" Maria Arena Bell, who is a woman, and lets all this misogyny slip onto her show. And there's the fact they're telling a B&B story on Y&R. Who cares? Take it to the show these two characters have history on and the show that has a history of making women seem like cartoons and victims. I'm sorry, there is no way to defend what Deacon did today, and I don't care about how sexy Kanan is or whatever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Y&RWorldTurner Posted July 24, 2009 Author Members Share Posted July 24, 2009 It's storytelling like this that drove this show back down to record low ratings... Your "vision" and your "show" isn't popular with audiences, Queen Marie Antoinette, erm, Maria Arena Bell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members soapydoc Posted July 24, 2009 Members Share Posted July 24, 2009 I'm not sure either couple in this quad is bringing in the ratings. Sure, people are talking on the boards but message board people are don't seem to have boxes. The Sharon and Nick cabin sex (4.0) was in the middle of some decent stories so I'm not sure the reconnection was the reason for the 25,000 increase in viewers. Brad was missing (we knew he was probably dead), the Marge/Katherine story was blasting on all cylinders and Lane/Chilly was hitting some interesting beats regarding the baby. When the quad has been on their own or during duller stories, the ratings have been far from stellar. The "Cassie death day/I could be having your baby" reveal was the lowest day of the week (3.5) and lost viewers on the following Monday in addition to lowering their share (3.4). But the same could be said for Nick and Phyllis. I don't think any of their big days are keeping people near the TV's either. My point, as a fan of one of these couples, is that the writers have over estimated our desire to see these four ping pong. If they'd had Nick leave after the first cabin sex or stay gone after the second, then work the rest of the story, it would have been better. But it seems they were so intent on having Sharon tell Nick she was pregnant on the anniversary of Cassie's death, that the story had to be stalled with all of this back and forth. If even fan girls/boys don't care, your bread and butter story is now only good for croutons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Y&RWorldTurner Posted July 24, 2009 Author Members Share Posted July 24, 2009 This Deacon/Amber borderline rape crap is rightfully turning out to be unpopular on many other boards across the net. Leave it to these idiots heading Y&R's writing team to add more fuel to their backlash. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Y&RWorldTurner Posted July 24, 2009 Author Members Share Posted July 24, 2009 Hmm, Nelson again criticizes Y&R in today's Suds Report: http://tvguide.sympatico.msn.ca/Soaps/Suds/Articles/090724_suds_report_NB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members y&r_fan Posted July 25, 2009 Members Share Posted July 25, 2009 Speaking of Josh Griffith, I'm beginning to wonder if maybe he should have stayed - not as EP, but as HW. I actually think he and Hogan would've worked well as a team. With Josh's character-driven and nauseatingly upbeat style and Hogan's plot-driven and dark style, they could have balanced each other out nicely. I loved Ashley on B&B. She breathed new life into that show, and vice versa. I was hoping for a Thorne/Ashley pairing, but no such luck. Maybe Maria will wake up now that Nelson Branco, her chief sycophant, seems to be turning on her. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Y&RWorldTurner Posted July 25, 2009 Author Members Share Posted July 25, 2009 This woman has had so many chances, and she's appraoching her two year at this show in the fall. Two years was how long Latham lasted, I believe. We'll see if Maria and Company, hopefully, get canned by her two year mark with the show. Maria's had too many chances since she single-handedly gave this show the biggest ratings erosion in its history, and now that the show seems to be going back in that direction, her chances have run up. If she and her henchmen can't handle this show properly, it's time for them to resign or be fired. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members MarkH Posted July 25, 2009 Members Share Posted July 25, 2009 Brimike already told us, LML was cancelled for mismanagement...not ratings or creative direction. I hear no evidence Y&R is mismanaged in a fiscal/logistic sense. So it's not gonna happen. It's more productive to think about ways this regime can get its game back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bellcurve Posted July 25, 2009 Members Share Posted July 25, 2009 What do you call keeping players on contract that you never use? Keeping a bloated writing team? Useless crossovers from a lower rated show? And there are no ways this regime can get it back. People have been saying that about Goutman since Sheffer was let go, same for Brad Bell since S-I-L Boink, and Guza well, since he came back after McTavish. It's useless to think that this team will change its course. They are set in their ways. And this kind of product reeks of complacency and desperation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members dm. Posted July 25, 2009 Members Share Posted July 25, 2009 I am this close to dumping the show. Honestly, it feels like every day I tune in and it insults in intelligence. I am a few days behind and have absolutely no need to watch it because I know it is bad. Then again, if I drop it there are so many things that I am losing, from my work on other sites to this forum... however, it might just be what I need. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members lovely_m Posted July 25, 2009 Members Share Posted July 25, 2009 For the Canadian viewers, was Monday's US episode stellar or was Nelson exaggerating? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Sylph Posted July 25, 2009 Members Share Posted July 25, 2009 This show is on fire. Literally. The self-combustion will be over any minute now. And any minute now it can be proclaimed to be worse than Latham's vision. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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