Members MarkH Posted May 29, 2009 Members Share Posted May 29, 2009 Secrets and lies and even affairs are staples. But deaths, dna, doppelgangers, and daddy-mysteries (the closest I could get to "pregnancies" while staying in the d-theme) have been overused. There is just no need for more death on this show. It is not a crime soap. And DNA has been so overused, now we don't trust any of it. And doppelgangers is the flip side of death--they make this mistakes, and then they do pretzel twists to bring them back. I'd just take a break from these, and see what they can produce without relying on these conventions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Cat Posted May 29, 2009 Members Share Posted May 29, 2009 Thanks! You may be in for a long wait. I don't think Y&R -- or any other soap, really -- is going to follow your recommendations. TPTB already feel constricted by the dictates of the genre as it is. Just churn it out and meet that deadline! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Cat Posted May 29, 2009 Members Share Posted May 29, 2009 OT: Just realized that Mayim Bialik/Blossom also played the tween-Bette Midler character in "Beaches. Ohhh-woah-woah-woah. Did you ever know that you're my HE-RO? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members JackPeyton Posted May 29, 2009 Members Share Posted May 29, 2009 yes, its AshBash and StPHEEEEEN (as kristen would say) from laguna/oth. Ashbash also looks cute there, a rare thing IMHO. If thats the case i feel its the show not doing it and not the couple not willing too. that was on tv the other day and i was all "Blossom?! And Bette?! WHAT" lol. great movie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members classicmoment Posted May 29, 2009 Members Share Posted May 29, 2009 Honestly Sharon's been skanky but who's to judge her? Phyllis makes sense to me because ironically Phyllis has been a one woman man since Nick. But who-else is a non skank? Jack? Nick? Oh Please if anyone understands skankiness it's Nick. Billy? Billy would be going through his second wtd if he were a woman. I'm sure if Nikki were around she'd call her out being the big hypocrite she is Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members MarkH Posted May 29, 2009 Members Share Posted May 29, 2009 Well, all this skankiness REALLY undermines the characters. A LOT. Back in the day, they might pine for the one they didn't love...but they didn't periodically run out and f*ck 'em. I'm slowly losing my rooting perspective for anyone in the quad (but especially Nick and Sharon now...but I suspect Jack and Phyllis in the near future too). And so if we're watching a "messed up love" quadrangle between four people we judge negatively -- not a single person to cheer for in the bunch -- what is the POINT? You know when things are bad when CHLOE is the most innocent person in this mess. Gosh! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members JackPeyton Posted May 29, 2009 Members Share Posted May 29, 2009 really, i hate sharon... but she slept with three men in a week... whats the big deal? its not unheard of. lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members YRBB Posted May 29, 2009 Author Members Share Posted May 29, 2009 :lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members MarkH Posted May 29, 2009 Members Share Posted May 29, 2009 Has it ever been done on daytime before? Two men, for sure. But THREE? I mean, I think Case broke the sex-with-different-partners rule on daytime. Even back in the day, male hos like JR Ewing and Jack Abbott didn't sleep with that number of ladies in a week, did they? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members classicmoment Posted May 29, 2009 Members Share Posted May 29, 2009 There you go herein lies the end of this chapter. It is time to wrap it up and move on to the next chapter. Somebody needs to start growing up from within the quad I think this is somebody's rock bottom. I have been enjoying the story but now even I am like let's wrap it up. Phyllis needs to say "To hell with you Nick!" in those exact words or something. Let's start giving these character back a bit of power slowly too much misery, noone to root for at this point I am starting to lose any care I have for who ends up where move them all into the Abbott mansion or move it along. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members MarkH Posted May 29, 2009 Members Share Posted May 29, 2009 Yup. Wrap it up. I'm TOTALLY feeling it. I have loved Nick and Phyllis, and I will enjoy their window of time together...but I definitely want more for her now. So, you know, maybe the intent of this story was to kill off the "Phick" adulation...and it needed to be done this way...so that fans could move on. I don't know. But at this point, I'm REALLY waiting for Nick to strike out (one more f*ck with Sharon...it's GOTTA happen one of these days). And then, in a beautifully comic scene, Phyllis can evict Gloria and Jeffrey from her penthouse. You already saw them set that one up this week . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Aback Posted May 29, 2009 Members Share Posted May 29, 2009 On a more shallow note... ...does anyone else think that they have David Lago step on a platform or something, in order not to look shorter than Clementine Ford? (because I seem to remember he was quite short back in the day, and Clem looks definitely taller than any Brittany or Rianna) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members cara mia Posted May 29, 2009 Members Share Posted May 29, 2009 I think David Lago is about 5'8. CF probably wore flats in their scenes. Anyway, who cares. They have CHEMISTRY!!! It's a miracle! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members dm. Posted May 29, 2009 Members Share Posted May 29, 2009 :lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members soapydoc Posted May 29, 2009 Members Share Posted May 29, 2009 I guess if I really thought they were trying to just kill the Nick and Phyllis story, I'd say "okey dokey". But they must also be trying to kill the Shick love too because they're writing them as unlikeable as Phick. Actually, the common factor in both of these is Nick so the real answer is probably that the show is trying to drive Nick into the ground. The only fans really enjoying Nick right now are the die-hard Shick fans who are glad that Nick is starting to swing Sharon's way or hate Phick or hate Phyllis so they're glad to see her suffer. But for the most part, Nick is far from a loveable character right now. At the heart of things, we are not really supposed to want him with either of these women. He has little to offer them in respect to emotional stability, something Sharon and Phyllis very much need. Our wonderful writers have given themselves plenty of fodder for the next story beats of this story. I wish Camryn Grimes was getting royalties everytime they mention her character's name because she could pay her college tuition based on this story arc alone. Something tells me we are not done yet either. When are we going to see MJ again? I miss her brand of crazy. Speaking of crazy, count me in as a fan pulling for Adam to stick it to Victor and Jack through every unrealistic plot point of this gaslighting story. I love it. The worse he is, the more I like him. Perhaps, CE didn't really understand soaps. Because, if he did. He'd be eating this up instead of looking for another career. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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