28 minutes ago, denzo30 said:

The network and P&G probably only saw $$ and what they think the viewers could relate too.  Almost like Susan Harney coming back at Alice for the 25th anniversary instead of Jackie Courtney probably would have never been considered.

I think Judith would have had a much stronger position than Susan Harney, but I know Susan's primetime success was probably the reason they asked her back.

1 hour ago, DRW50 said:

I see what you mean, but Susan herself had been gone almost 15 years, and the story that sent Lenore out of town was started by Judith. I think it could have worked.

Agreed. I never saw Judith Barcroft as Lenore and I would have been very happy to see her during the 25th anniversary episodes. I was always interested when the show used characters and actors from the past - even those I had no connection to.

I have so much to catch up with here in the topic! Woof! So much interesting info.

 

22 hours ago, Contessa Donatella said:

An analysis of JFP's effect on the demo W18-49 at Another World in 1995-96.
Sources:
https://www.jason47.com/days/nielsens1995.html

https://www.jason47.com/days/nielsens1996.html

4-22-96 AW 2.7
              GL 2.5
              ATWT 2.3
4-29-96 AW 2.6
              GL 2.4
              ATWT 2.1
5-6-96 AW 2.9
              GL 2.5
            ATWT 2.3 
5-13-96 AW 2.7
             ATWT 2.5
             GL 2.4
5-20-96 ATWT 2.4
               AW 2.3/14
               GL 2.2/14
6-3-96   GL 2.5
              AW 2.4/16
             ATWT 2.4/16
6-17-96 ATWT 2.4/16
             AW 2.4/15
            GL 2.2
6-24-96 AW 2.4/16
            ATWT 2.4/16
            GL 2.2
7-1-96 AW 2.5/17
          ATWT 2.5/17
          GL 2.2
7-15-96 ATWT 2.6
             GL 2.3
            AW 2.1
7-22-96 AW 2.5/16
           ATWT 2.5/16
               GL 2.2
7-29-96  AW 2.8
               ATWT 2.3
             GL 2.0
8-5-96 AW 2.5
          ATWT 2.4
          GL 2.0
8-12-96 ATWT 2.6/17
                 AW 2.6/16
                GL 2.2 
8-19-96 AW 2.8
               ATWT 2.4
               GL 2.2
8-26-96 AW 2.6
               ATWT 2.2
                GL 2.1
9-9-96 AW 2.9
         ATWT 2.1
           GL 1.9
9-16-96 AW 2.8
         ATWT 2.3
          GL 2.0
9-23-96 AW 2.8
           GL 2.2
            ATWT 2.1
9-30-96 AW 2.7
            ATWT 2.2
           GL 1.8
This accounts for all the instances where AW rated better in the W18-49 demo when compared to ATWT & GL in 1996. There is only 1 week in 1995 where this occurs & as you will see, it is rather different.
9-25-95   AW 2.4/17
               ATWT 2.4/16
                   GL 2.4/16  
In the rest of the time covering May 1995 to Sept. 1996 AW was as low as 1.6 and as high as 2.7.
           

Thank you! 

Edited January 23Jan 23 by Maxim

10 minutes ago, Maxim said:

I have so much to catch up with here in the topic! Woof! So much interesting info.

Been hopping!

 

10 minutes ago, Maxim said:

Thank you! 

You're very welcome.

May I just add thanks for the thanks. I love to do this kind of thing but that does not mean it's not hard work. And for it to be appreciated is, well, appreciated.

 

36 minutes ago, Contessa Donatella said:

Been hopping!

 

You're very welcome.

May I just add thanks for the thanks. I love to do this kind of thing but that does not mean it's not hard work. And for it to be appreciated is, well, appreciated.

 

It's very well appreciated.  💗

13 hours ago, Efulton said:

Agreed. I never saw Judith Barcroft as Lenore and I would have been very happy to see her during the 25th anniversary episodes. I was always interested when the show used characters and actors from the past - even those I had no connection to.

Basically just a "Me Too" post as I, too, always had an interest in actors & characters whether I had personally watched them or not.

15 hours ago, Contessa Donatella said:

Not new. Alice Barrett Mitchell, Kale Brown, Anna Stuart, Christine Tucci, Alicia Coppolla

The anniversary was not the topic. It was a Reunion show & they only talked about the anniversary because they talked about Doug's death. But, I REALLY enjoyed it. Tucci & Coppolla are best friends & godmothers to each other's kids!!

 

Also, Alice talked about Frankie's death, which I found quite interesting & learned some things. (I would've done this as an Edit & just added to the original post, but, since that's a nice thing we no longer get to have, this is it.)

I was looking for information about Michael Laibson's time on GL, but I came across this interview he gave about his time on AW and why he never told a "gay" storyline on the show. I thought it might be of interest.

10 hours ago, chrisml said:

I was looking for information about Michael Laibson's time on GL, but I came across this interview he gave about his time on AW and why he never told a "gay" storyline on the show. I thought it might be of interest.

What a great article!! Is there a link? It refers to more & I am interested. Also, thanks for finding this & then posting.

 

3 hours ago, Contessa Donatella said:

What a great article!! Is there a link? It refers to more & I am interested. Also, thanks for finding this & then posting.

 

It looks like an excerpt from the book Her Stories by Elana Levine. 

Thanks, @chrisml. I have the book on my Kindle but haven't looked into it much. Anything else interesting you have found?

3 minutes ago, Xanthe said:

It looks like an excerpt from the book Her Stories by Elana Levine. 

Thanks, @chrisml. I have the book on my Kindle but haven't looked into it much. Anything else interesting you have found?

That is one of my favorite books!

Her explanation and exploration of the network expansion is better than anyone, well, except perhaps my own. She does not go into AW's 90 minute experiment, at all, but, besides that, except for a paragraph from Pete Lemay, she covers it 100% 4x4square, ...

She has a bias, but that's because she became a fan of GH at a tender age. 

You know the AWHP doc abt the creation of AW, she did part of the reporting on that story. 

I'll try to think what else is a highlight.

She's another person I email with on occasion.

It's not in the book but she agrees that Lin Bolen IS Diana in NETWORK.

 

Edited January 24Jan 24 by Contessa Donatella
info

It's hard to find a lot of sources about the soaps because many of the magazines are no longer in print or do not have archives. For instance, I find several mentions of a TV guide column by Michael Logan where he praises Laibson for saving AW and then claims Laibson is going to save GL from cancellation after the "disastrous" (Logan's supposed term not mine) end to JFP's term as EP. However, I can't find the article.

3 minutes ago, chrisml said:

It's hard to find a lot of sources about the soaps because many of the magazines are no longer in print or do not have archives. For instance, I find several mentions of a TV guide column by Michael Logan where he praises Laibson for saving AW and then claims Laibson is going to save GL from cancellation after the "disastrous" (Logan's supposed term not mine) end to JFP's term as EP. However, I can't find the article.

Some of his stuff is archived. TV Guide Magazine, I think is what includes some of his stuff. Of course over time he wrote for so many different media outlets.

Have any of you ever seen this temp Iris? It was new to me. She was okay, I guess. 

36 minutes ago, Contessa Donatella said:

Have any of you ever seen this temp Iris? It was new to me. She was okay, I guess. 

Carole Shelley took the temp recast of Iris in early 1980 after Beverlee McKinsey had a fall at her home and was injured.  Shelley was an accomplished actress with Broadway and Hollywood credits.  The timing of her playing Iris was awkward because it occurred at the conclusion and aftermath of Janice Frame trying to kill Mac in St. Croix.  I’m sure that McKinsey would have played the scenes differently.  Shelley was a little over the top when Brian recaps what happened in St. Croix to her Iris and Willis Frame.

8 minutes ago, watson71 said:

Shelley was an accomplished actress with Broadway and Hollywood credits.

I recently learned that she was the original Madame Morrible in Wicked on Broadway.