Members Y&RWorldTurner Posted April 7, 2009 Members Share Posted April 7, 2009 She didn't design it, Chip Dox suck ass. Dox has never been great with set design, no matter who the EP is. GH's craptastic production values stretch back before Jill arrived. I love Wendy Riche, but the show didn't look much better aesthetically under her reign than it does right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Sylph Posted April 7, 2009 Members Share Posted April 7, 2009 She keeps him employed. And I know how far they reach, more proof Jill did nothing to improve them. And I doubt Frons tells her: Hey, make these sets look like this and not like that. Jill is awful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Ann_SS Posted April 7, 2009 Members Share Posted April 7, 2009 Watching GH must have lowered my standards and taste because I think the set looks good. LOL! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Y&RWorldTurner Posted April 7, 2009 Members Share Posted April 7, 2009 But so did all those who came before her. If Jill had more power at GH, a lot of things might still suck and come off as a convoluted mess, but it would be of a different kind, I'm sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Sylph Posted April 7, 2009 Members Share Posted April 7, 2009 Set decorators suck, too. But why hasn't she fired him? If she has taste and eyes, she would see he sucks. The woman has lost any taste she might have had before. No one's here talking about the story, she would probably have zero power there, one of the reasons being that Guza is a CP, but at least she can get those sets, make-up, hair, costumes in line. Awful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Ann_SS Posted April 7, 2009 Members Share Posted April 7, 2009 How do we know for sure that JFP has no power at GH? She may be deeply involved in making the show crapastic. I have never like her as EP regardless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Sylph Posted April 7, 2009 Members Share Posted April 7, 2009 That's a theory some people have. And I so doubt it. Sure, everyone knows she has very little say in stories, but the look - that's all her doing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Y&RWorldTurner Posted April 7, 2009 Members Share Posted April 7, 2009 Who knows what's happened to Jill? I thought SB and GL were incredibly beautiful and grand during her EP tenure, even AW and OLTL to an extent. GH is an odd case, during Jill's first two years or so, the general production values were a lot better than what Wendy Riche left her with, I particularly liked it when she had Sonny's penthouse set retouched. But now? Ugh, no one at GH even tries anymore - in any department. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Sylph Posted April 7, 2009 Members Share Posted April 7, 2009 You know how people at one point in they life loose all sense of taste for no apparent reason even though during their heyday they had it all? This might be one of those cases. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members CSF Posted April 7, 2009 Members Share Posted April 7, 2009 If Jill had more power, GH would look like Y&R! Her GL was beautiful. Wendy's GH was warm, but JFP could have made it glamorous. I don't think she is allowed to do anything, quite honestly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Sylph Posted April 7, 2009 Members Share Posted April 7, 2009 ClassicSoapFan, stop the madness! How can you say that?! She has the budget for sets and all, are you really telling me Frons or someone else is telling her: Hey, I don't want that colour here, I want this one? That is insane. That's not power, that's what she is payed to do. Otherwise, they would have dumped her and her huge salary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members rangethatrover Posted April 7, 2009 Members Share Posted April 7, 2009 I mentioned that today in the unpopular opinions thread. I have been watching more and more old GL on Youtube and JFP's era has the show looking nearly as good as Y&R- great attention to detail, great lighting, even great outdoor sets. Loved her OLTL production too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Carolyn1980 Posted April 7, 2009 Members Share Posted April 7, 2009 Pretty much. She's just a bean-counter, a figurehead, like every other EP at ABC Daytime since Frons arrived and started micro-managing all the shows to the nth degree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Sylph Posted April 7, 2009 Members Share Posted April 7, 2009 I find this insane. Frons controlling the look of sets and all... Whoa, nelly... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members CSF Posted April 7, 2009 Members Share Posted April 7, 2009 Sylph, Honestly, under a different daytime President, GH with JFP would be beautiful! I don't believe for one bit that she has any control. She probably just read's actor's contracts all day long for Frons to see who they can dismiss. If you look at her work on past show's she is one of the best producer's in the industry. Now, don't get me wrong, she is still a first class b*itch, but she is brilliant when it comes to the overall look and feel of a show. I really believe that it's Guza who dictates the look of the show to Frons. Because this is certain, his writing could never correspond with JFP's gorgeous production values. NEVER! If I had to make a list of executive producers who can make a soap look fabulous, it would be in this order: Paul Rauch William J. Bell John Conboy (Pre-retirement) Ed Scott Jill Farren Phelps Linda Gottlieb Out of those 6, there are only 2 still working in daytime right now. Rauch makes Y&R look stunning as it's always been. One Life to Live still has the marks Linda Gottlieb and JFP left pre Valantini. GH should be grand. The Q Mansion might have even looked the way it did before Monty's earthquake. The hospital would be livelier, and would have never burned down. The Port Charles Hotel would still be here and it would be beautiful. Even Wyndemere would be beautiful. JFP is known for taking what she has when she arrives at a show and enhancing it. There is no two ways about it. That's the facts plan and simple when it comes to JFP. Frons and Guza have her in check. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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