Members alwaysAMC Posted February 10, 2009 Members Share Posted February 10, 2009 I just started watching...the Greenlee/Erica snark is fun, as always. The Rinks fighting dialogue is great --- Kate Hall of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Cheap21 Posted February 10, 2009 Members Share Posted February 10, 2009 Greenlee said this to Kendall "You are the only sister I've got." So Im guessing Lily doesnt really count Bianca and Reese annoy me. They are really a bad couple. I dont get why they are getting married as they have way too many problems that simply are not being addressed and fixxed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members marceline Posted February 10, 2009 Members Share Posted February 10, 2009 When I heard ER and TB were coming to AMC as a couple I said "I'm in. Don't make me regret this Pratt." He made me regret it. I'm sorry I ever come back to this show. I had planned to hang in until the wedding but I'm done. He's no better than Guza and Carlivati. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Kubla Khan Posted February 10, 2009 Members Share Posted February 10, 2009 A couple is having? WHAT? Problems!? On a soap opera?!?!? WHAT!?!?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members R Sinclair Posted February 10, 2009 Members Share Posted February 10, 2009 I loved the dialogue in the Breese fight scenes. Tamara Braun does her best when she plays emotional relationship fights. That's what she did well with as Carly on GH. Susan Wald used to always write some kick ass fight scenes for Sonny and Carly. Anyway, Kate Hall did a kick ass job with the dialogue. I understood both sides (I agree with Reese, though). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DavidEvanSmith Posted February 10, 2009 Members Share Posted February 10, 2009 I liked the argument between Bianca/Reese today. Good stuff, but it further highlights why they're not ready for marriage. I liked Kendall's explanation to Zach about waking up in someone else's life. Great way to reestablish Kendall as the outsider in a world where she'd gotten to be so "in". Everything else was just blah, blah, blah. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Caramel Posted February 10, 2009 Members Share Posted February 10, 2009 I took it as forcasting and story/plot set-up. Plus, they are closer than Greens/Lily. I liked what they are doing with Kendall. Breese is just so.... too little, too late and just wrong. Pratt screwed this up, royally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ChitHappens Posted February 10, 2009 Members Share Posted February 10, 2009 Unfortunately, while writing Rinx, Pratt was thinking about contract expiration. Before both/either (TB/ER) left the canvas Pratt tried to tell a story that usually develops over at least 6 months in 3 weeks. Now, the audience gets treated to why they shouldn't be together as opposed to watching the journey reflecting why they belong with one another. Basically, Bianca shows up with the 12th love of her life (she is so Erica's daughter), and she has no idea about this woman. Reese is not a bad person, she's just bisexual. I think Bianca falling for a woman who is falling for her god-like brother in law is a gold mine. Reese being bisexual is perfect, but again, Pratt went about it all wrong. He wants to make daytime history with the first gay wedding, and 3/4 of his audience don't believe these two belong together. Reese is not the woman for Bianca, and Pratt, a supposedly accomplished storyteller should have known this. Idiot! ANDREA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members R Sinclair Posted February 10, 2009 Members Share Posted February 10, 2009 Pratt, at least, has made an attempt. The problem, if you ask me, and I know y'all didn't, is the fact that ABCD keeps catering to Eden Riegel's "Hey, I'm broke, so let me come back to earn enough money so I can leave again," whims. Instead of telling this story with the only lesbian character portrayed by a woman who can't stay on this damn show long enough to TELL the effin' story, they should... I dunno... maybe act as if there is more than ONE lonely lesbian that lives in Pine Valley and develop another character? Or... have Bianca usher Reese in and then develop Reese (cast with an actor who, also, won't leave in five minutes) and then tell stories about lesbianism through her. I think this is primarily the brass at ABC who are at fault here. Knowing what we know now, writers are only allotted so many days, weeks, months and sets to tell their stories based on contracts and actor availability -- which is why I think the Rebecca storyline didn't go through. It's more than obvious that LK and ABC didn't come to an agreement, which stalled the Rebecca/Hubbards story. Same thing with Kendall. Lish and ABC were working through contract negotiations which caused this whole Reese/Zach/Bianca story to take weird turns. I strongly believe that if AM, ER and TB weren't dealing with contract situations, this story would've been told in more appropriate beats. But since AM was in negotiations and ER & TB are short term, it threw the original ideas into a tailspin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Adam Posted February 10, 2009 Members Share Posted February 10, 2009 WORD! Pratt of course shoulders part of the blame for sure, but there were many factors at work here. It is unfair to label him the sole benefactor of this horribly misguided storyline. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Y&RWorldTurner Posted February 10, 2009 Members Share Posted February 10, 2009 I kinda wish Tamara was cast as a completely new character. I still believe that she and Thorsten have amazing chemistry together, and they look like they're having fun working together. And yeah, they're better than Zendull. If they're going for a Resse/Zach/Kendall triangle when Eden leaves, I think it would be kind of hot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members R Sinclair Posted February 10, 2009 Members Share Posted February 10, 2009 Pratt was asked, not only to save a sinking ship, but to get it afloat and TURN the damn thing around! But as we've seen over the last 8 years that Frons has been at ABCD, there are a LOT of challenges which make it difficult to turn a sinking ship around. He wants one thing, writers and their egos want other things, actors crave another thing altogether... I can say this, as a person who questioned -- okay, downright DOUBTED Pratt as a head writer for this show -- that I've seen beginnings of stories that would've been interesting: Kathy's hatred of Krystal; Rebecca; Randi's Sex Tape; Bianca & Reese... and then those stories just take weird, quick and drastic turns. Remember a couple of weeks ago when everybody was saying that there was a weird tone to the majority of episodes that aired that week? Even Kate Hall, who's been pitch perfect since 2007, had a crazy assed script. There's something else going on. Something that's more than what we know. Just look at those weird episodes the last week of January. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Adam Posted February 10, 2009 Members Share Posted February 10, 2009 I feel the tone has half disappeared..... maybe once we get through all these hostage siutations in terms of contracts things will flow a bit better? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members rsmith2k2 Posted February 10, 2009 Members Share Posted February 10, 2009 I agree. I also believe there is more than simple writing choices affecting what's onscreen. Something happened in January, imo. I still have my doubts about the intentions for Reese and Bianca and think Pratt's (and others likely) made some bad choices. I am still glad they have put this couple up front and center and gave them a rather imperfect whirl. *prepares for objects flying in my direction* Future events could change my opinion. So is every story on AMC, imperfect. The tone of the show is too dark, imo but I cannot deny I find the show more entertaining still day in and day out. I also like a lot of what he's doing for the show and see some method involved. He's made Kendall utterly fascinating to me again. They've been treading water on some issues for a long ass time waiting on Kendall to wake up, it's time for Pratt to dive deep into those. Things seem to be getting some better now overall, there is some more depth coming with Kendall awakening. I doubt we'll get as much as I'd like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members RomeAt50 Posted February 10, 2009 Members Share Posted February 10, 2009 The Bianca/Reese/Zach storyline is awful. Bianca and Reese should not be getting married and I'm tired of the endless Zach/Reese scenes. I hated how Reese managed to make herself out to be the victim today. She's such a terrible character. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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