Members I Am A Swede Posted August 2, 2024 Members Share Posted August 2, 2024 I'm sure that Trump is furious over this. When he finally got into the spotlight again through that already infamous interview, Biden and the White House steals the attention with these news. Please register in order to view this content 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Soapsuds Posted August 2, 2024 Members Share Posted August 2, 2024 Harris is ahead in Wisconsin, Michigan and Pennsylvania. She wins those three and she's POTUS. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Khan Posted August 2, 2024 Members Share Posted August 2, 2024 (edited) In a way, it reminds me of all those holier-than-thou, Susan Sarandon types who felt (and, I guess, still feel) no compunction whatsoever for not voting for Hillary Clinton in 2016. In both cases, you have individuals or groups who wield entirely too much power and/or influence, without giving a toss to how their decisions will affect the country as a whole; and in both cases, you have individuals and groups looking like a bunch of fools in the end, too. I've said it before, and I'll say it again: we are where we are, because the Democrats allowed the GOP and the MSM to control the narrative that Joe Biden was some fossil in need of Depends and a bib to catch his drool. There'd be no need for Kamala Harris to run, because voters would be aware of all the work that the Biden administration has done to save us from ourselves. In turn, they would be behind him all the way. (I mean, people can cite all those lousy polls all they want, but I say that the polls wouldn't have been so bad for Biden if the Democratic Party and the MSM had simply done their jobs.) And you know what else really gets my proverbial goat? All these people who couldn't wait to shove Biden's ass off to the retirement village and wave bye-bye now giving him all kinds of flowers for efforts like with the prisoner swap. I'm sorry, but I just don't think you should have the right or the privilege now to praise him and lift his name up on high after you've gone out of your way to embarrass him. Clearly, you're just trying to assuage your guilt. Edited August 2, 2024 by Khan 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Vee Posted August 2, 2024 Members Share Posted August 2, 2024 (edited) That was my favorite moment, next to the stuff in the Oval with the families and seeing him and Harris together on the tarmac awaiting the hostages. "There's no way out!" I do think Joe remains very effective and competent in office, and Kamala would be wise to keep him close for counsel especially for international diplomacy in times that hopefully will come. In terms of campaigning, energy and momentum though I think the switch has been a total reset, in a good way. I think it's clear Joe is still very effective at one thing (governing) and perhaps less so at the other at present (campaigning). It does seem like there is a considerable weight off him now, though. Whether we can chalk that all up to media disdain or vibes, it's what has happened. I think it's shameful what happened and how it was done, but I can't pretend I'm not glad we are where we are this week. And I don't blame Joe for this but I frankly don't think Biden's team under him was doing enough to work the refs or change the narrative before the switch. The media was profoundly contemptuous of Joe, but at the same time his team had often been stuck in a defensive crouch and hoping for 'the right people to get it' for months if not years re: messaging on what he'd done. We were not going to win this election on loyal inertia alone, or at least I didn't want to bet on it. A lot of the same comms people came over to Harris but were (as reported) schooled on how to reapproach things, and so the tone, the energy and the aggression is different, because the mentality and deference to the old ways - which no longer work in Washington - is not the same. Speaking of, Republican-leaning Amy Walter (who continues to speculate/hope that Trump can win if this election is about 'the issues', like immigration) reluctantly tweeted this data: Edited August 2, 2024 by Vee 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DramatistDreamer Posted August 2, 2024 Members Share Posted August 2, 2024 And yet, they are still giving oxygen to those nutty conspiracists (right-wing as well as ultra leftists) who are trying to spread the rumor that somehow Biden timed the culmination of a years-long effort so that it would benefit Harris’ election prospects. How stupid can these people be?? Maybe it’s the fact that I am no longer on Twitter, but mercifully, I am no longer hearing a mumbling word out of the mouth of Susan Sarandon! Or any of her ilk. The most I get is an occasional “I will never forgive Clooney” Spout which I actually enjoy. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Vee Posted August 2, 2024 Members Share Posted August 2, 2024 @DRW50 Harry Enten's HaterWatch '24 continues: Nate Silver is coping with the new swing results: I know what DRW will say, but there is no way Trump is up that far in PA. This is Nate skewing himself. If Trafalgar has him down, it's bad. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Vee Posted August 2, 2024 Members Share Posted August 2, 2024 (edited) If Rasmussen has her up this much, same story. Edited August 2, 2024 by Vee 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Vee Posted August 2, 2024 Members Share Posted August 2, 2024 A moment of clarity with Karl, who clearly learned a hard lesson from 2012: 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Vee Posted August 2, 2024 Members Share Posted August 2, 2024 In another sign of good tidings, Kyle Rittenhouse of all people abandoned Trump the other night, only to swiftly take it back when facing MAGA wrath: 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Khan Posted August 2, 2024 Members Share Posted August 2, 2024 Anyone else think they got to poor Kyle, lol? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Vee Posted August 2, 2024 Members Share Posted August 2, 2024 One of the greater headlines of this cycle. She's breaking him. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Vee Posted August 3, 2024 Members Share Posted August 3, 2024 LMAO: Please register in order to view this content 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Members Khan Posted August 3, 2024 Members Share Posted August 3, 2024 (edited) nm Edited August 3, 2024 by Khan 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Soapsuds Posted August 3, 2024 Members Share Posted August 3, 2024 That will never happen. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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