Members ReddFoxx Posted June 23, 2018 Members Share Posted June 23, 2018 One thing that gets overlooked and ignored is the fact that immigration has been down for a long time. More people voluntary went back to their countries of origin in the past few years. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Juliajms Posted June 24, 2018 Members Share Posted June 24, 2018 (edited) Very interesting article. I would have guessed the U.S. was somewhere in the low 20's and that Germany was higher and Australia lower. They are definitely right about the manipulation that goes on and it's scary to think that the radical right might keep rising because of that. Edited June 24, 2018 by Juliajms 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DRW50 Posted June 24, 2018 Members Share Posted June 24, 2018 The Rick Thomas channel on Youtube has been putting up a lot of Watergate-era stuff. That can tend to blur together, but I thought this was interesting. At about 28 minutes starts an interview with then-Senator Daniel Inouye. I didn't know he was subjected to a racial slur during the Watergate hearings. Please register in order to view this content 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DramatistDreamer Posted June 24, 2018 Members Share Posted June 24, 2018 I would imagine that every POC in Congress is at some point subject to racial slurs. That much about Congress is a lot like life itself. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Wendy Posted June 24, 2018 Members Share Posted June 24, 2018 If this doesn't tell you that Trump spits on our Constitution and longs to be a dictator, nothing will. Trump floats denying due process for undocumented immigrants. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DRW50 Posted June 25, 2018 Members Share Posted June 25, 2018 We stopped caring about due process when W was President - Trump is just more blunt about it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DramatistDreamer Posted June 25, 2018 Members Share Posted June 25, 2018 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DRW50 Posted June 25, 2018 Members Share Posted June 25, 2018 What do they want to replace ICE with? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Khan Posted June 25, 2018 Members Share Posted June 25, 2018 The buddy system, I guess? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DRW50 Posted June 25, 2018 Members Share Posted June 25, 2018 Some in Canada are pushing to go after the Trump businesses personally. Canada was the wrong country to mess with. http://www.businessinsider.com/canada-france-trump-organization-tariffs-trade-response-2018-6?r=UK&IR=T 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Khan Posted June 25, 2018 Members Share Posted June 25, 2018 It's the moment when you realize a dumb Michael Moore movie ("Canadian Bacon," to be exact) was actually more prescient than you'd ever want to admit. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DRW50 Posted June 25, 2018 Members Share Posted June 25, 2018 I was watching some old HBO junctions on Youtube a few days ago and one described Canadian Bacon, and I had the same reaction. Scary... Anyway, more "winning" from tariffs: https://www.cnbc.com/2018/06/25/harley-davidson-says-it-will-not-raise-prices-to-cover-eu-tariff-cost.html https://www.cnbc.com/2018/06/25/trade-war-europe-china-work-together-as-us-threatens-with-new-duties.html 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Juliajms Posted June 25, 2018 Members Share Posted June 25, 2018 I've wondered the same. I think some of the far left people don't want to replace it at all. That seems unrealistic to me. I agree that they are a dangerous organization, but a lot of that comes from the top. Until we have a better leader, the changes needed to ICE will not happen. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DramatistDreamer Posted June 25, 2018 Members Share Posted June 25, 2018 A an organization that lacks dysfunction perhaps? People may not realize that ICE was created in 2003, yes, the U.S. did indeed function with INS and earlier organizations. ICE has probably been the worst of any of the immigration enforcement organizations. They're definitely the least cognizant of people's civil and human rights. Reading this article made me think of HOC. Very unfortunate, highly unprofessional, to say the least. How an Affair Between a Reporter and a Security Aide Has Rattled Washington Media 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Juliajms Posted June 25, 2018 Members Share Posted June 25, 2018 (edited) ^ I always figured that ICE was basically INS renamed. I'm all for coming up with an agency that isn't trying to kill or traumatize people, but that's not going to happen until this administration is either ended or reigned in. I agree they are basically going to start over if the US ever gets it's $hit together. Right now we have people who are capable of doing evil things and I don't think you can just retrain them. They are too set in the idea that this is a border war. Trump didn't start it, but he has made it worse. ETA: Looks like INS was merged into ICE: The agencies that were either moved entirely or merged in part into ICE included the investigative and intelligence resources of the United States Customs Service, the criminal investigative, detention and deportation resources of the Immigration and Naturalization Service, and the Federal Protective Service. The Federal Protective Service was later transferred from ICE to the National Protection and Programs Directorate effective October 28, 2009. In 2003, Asa Hutchinson moved the Federal Air Marshals Service from the Transportation Security Administration (TSA) to ICE,[7] but Chertoff moved them back to the TSA in 2005.[8] Edited June 25, 2018 by Juliajms 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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