The Politics Thread

[I Am A Swede]

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[Vee]

Absolutely astonished and thrilled they did this lol

 

 

It's time for yet another Republican moment of clarity with (checks notes) Meghan.

 

[Khan]

Trump referred to "transgender world" in his...whatever that was.  I was just being cute.

As usual, Trump goes entirely off the rails and all the press writes or talks about is that he challenged Harris to three debates.  Nothing at all about the...whatever that was.

Someone needs to educate the journalists on what journalism is and is not.

Edited August 8, 2024 by Khan

[janea4old]

 

[I Am A Swede]

Oh, Trump didn't say that? Sorry, I thought you were actually quoting him. 

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It sure did sound like something he would say though.....

 

[janea4old]

 

 

 

 

Edited August 8, 2024 by janea4old

[Khan]

The media is so afraid to appear biased that they have to "both sides" everything and allow lunatics like Donald Trump to ramble on unchecked. Yet, they let their bias show the SECOND they hold Democrats to a double standard. Then, when someone gets enough nerve to call the media out on their [!@#$%^&*], what do they do? They get defensive, say it's their job to report the news and not be arbiters of facts; then, they lecture us on what their job is, even though we know damn well what it is.

It's appalling how "in the tank" the media is for the GOP. They actually believe that if they kiss Trump's ring enough, he'll spare them if/when he gets to realize his totalitarian fantasies. In a way, you almost WANT him to win again, if only to see the media's reaction when they realize they've been played.

Edited August 8, 2024 by Khan

[janea4old]

 

[Vee]

 

[Khan]

At the end of the day, that's what you want to hear from politicians: not that this country is in trouble and we're on the verge of total destruction; but that this country is good, because WE are good, and we all are in this together.  In other words, you want to give people HOPE. That's what sold America on Bill Clinton and Barack Obama, and (God willing) it'll sell them on Kamala Harris, too.

As I keep saying, there will come a day when the Democratic Party must answer for how they forced Joe Biden out of the race; but for now, I'm glad to see how Harris, along with Tim Walz, has met the occasion.  In a very short period of time, she's convinced a lot of people that this nation might be in very capable hands with her.

Edited August 9, 2024 by Khan

[Vee]

If she takes the WH, Joe's legacy will also be embedded in history even more than it already was, as he made the ultimate sacrifice of power and made certain to usher in the first Black female president.

 

 

[DRW50]

The trans stuff is another example of his very online handlers telling him what to say even as he doesn't know how to say it. They are obsessed with mainstreaming transphobia, and paranoia over all the atrocities they insist are happening schools. That's why they keep bringing up tampons. This might work to a certain degree (you can see the increase in transphobia in polling and public life), but as shown in the '22 midterms, many voters just find it confusing.

You're absolutely right. This is what the GOP always do. They push the media, already conservative, further and further to the right. That's what we have now with them pushing the media to demand Harris do extensive interviews with them, which is replacing any positive press about Harris because the media LOVES to center themselves and genuinely doesn't know why anyone wouldn't want to see them jerk off at all times. 

Meanwhile, Trump does the bare minimum, and the media ignores his ramblings and nonsense, instead doing the framing for him and making sure the main story is his agreeing to debates and asking her for more debates - similar to the NYT pushing his lies about a new tax cut proposal, they make sure he looks wonderful, and Harris is on the back foot.

Another example of this type of framing (Politico of course did it too)

There's no real way for Harris, or any Democrat, to cut through this garbage. The best they can do is hope voters don't fall for it.

I would be very cautious about continuing to lean into meme culture, especially as dril is, IIRC, another of the dead end left who was raging about Democrats and Gaza. If he comes out trashing her after she quotes one of his overused memes, it's just more negative attention coming her way. 

Edited August 9, 2024 by DRW50

[Khan]

In a way, I feel sorry for Donald Trump.  Make no mistake: primordial ooze has more character than that man ever had or ever will.  But he is clearly not well; and instead of admitting that and intervening, his family, his business associates, his campaign team, the GOP and the MSM are all making a lousy buck off him instead.  I realize that that's his karma but no one, not even a POS like Donald Trump, deserves to be exploited like that, especially if it's at our expense.

[DRW50]

Joe Rogan, whom you may remember as being the very, very white whale of the Bernie cultists back in 2019 and 2020, has endorsed RFK Jr. My guess is he is going to backtrack on this before November, as it could hurt Trump given the affiliation of the few bros who are hooked on his podcast and shitty standup. Still, it tells you of what a weak position Trump is presently in that Rogan is even going here.

https://variety.com/2024/digital/news/joe-rogan-endorses-rfk-jr-president-1236101220/

[Vee]