Careful. Some balloon popper might come along and say it is all blah...it is not purple lip gloss...it is reheated leftovers...the show has no central theme or identity...the nostalgic return to music and dialogue of the past signals creative stagnation... .

I am glad you appreciated the music too!!

That old music is one of the things that made Y&R- Y&R. It, if anything, is a return to form. Not a sign of stagnation at all...

Rauch has always undertsood and had excellent taste in background music. I do not think this is any coincidence either, I have a feeling Rauch had something do with this return to classic Y&R scores... or the directors were forbidden under LML to use the scores... I do not know. I do not recall any of the classic Y&R scores (pre 1998 or so, ) being used during her tenure. Also, not a coincidence.

Does CBS/Y&R have a viewer comment line??... I have never done this but I actually want to call..

Careful. Some balloon popper might come along and say it is all blah...it is not purple lip gloss...it is reheated leftovers...the show has no central theme or identity...the nostalgic return to music and dialogue of the past signals creative stagnation... .

I am glad you appreciated the music too!!

That old music is one of the things that made Y&R- Y&R. It, if anything, is a return to form. Not a sign of stagnation at all...

Rauch has always undertsood and had excellent taste in background music. I do not think this is any coincidence either, I have a feeling Rauch had something do with this return to classic Y&R scores... or the directors were forbidden under LML to use the scores... I do not know. I do not recall any of the classic Y&R scores (pre 1998 or so, ) being used during her tenure. Also, not a coincidence.

Does CBS/Y&R have a viewer comment line??... I have never done this but I actually want to call..

yes it does rangethatrover

1-323-575-2345 in California

, I call and complain a hundreds of times about the characters,actors and actresses and begging for recasts

Edited October 22, 200817 yr by alwild

I didn't see anything yet this week. Should have some sort of a marathon tomorrow...

So, I have no problem with the fact that the writers made lemonade out of lemons (i.e., turned Braeden's absence into an amazing plot twist). I agree with you about Adam. But I'm thinking it is more like this: Adam THOUGHT he was the next TGVN. All of this has shown us--AND him--that this will not be the case. This story will either grind him into a kind of humility (more Hope's son), or make him--like Jack--a perpetually ornery bad man once he realizes how suckered he has been.

I cannot believe that they will keep TGVN permanently estranged from Adam. Somehow I believe the long-arc story here will be about the Newmans circling the wagons around Adam and making him "one of the clan".

I hope you're right. I love to hate Adam, he's infinitely more interesting than either of his siblings, IMO, but eventually he will have to either be brought back into the Newman fold. If this is the plan, however, I do not want TPTB to mess with his relationship with Victoria and particularly Nick. I think the sibling rivalry has a lot of legs and they have terrific "hate" chemistry, IMO. Furthermore, if there is a time where the 3 of them live "happily ever after" together, it should be done in a way that they will never trust each other completely.

If Adam isn't eventually brought back into the Newman fold, I wonder what the long-term viability of the character would be? He can't be the prodigal son/whipping boy forever.

Billy was better than ever. That fake smile with Cane. That "selling glitter to 13-year old girls" comment to Jack. The implied threat to Jack ("keep me happy"). I thought Adam (initially) was the richest new character introduced in ages...Chloe is okay...but Billy is AMAZING. He has ties to almost everyone on the canvas, and the actor is terrific. It feels to me like he was always on the show.

ICAM. Yesterday I was thinking the same thing to myself when I was watching. Miller feels very right for this part and he's filled the long-missing Abbot hole in the show effortlessly.

Did Cliff beat on Adam when Hope wasn't looking? Otherwise, how did Saint Hope manage to raise such a vindictive, seemingly damaged character who resents the hell out of not being raised as a Newman?

I do not want TPTB to mess with his relationship with Victoria and particularly Nick. I think the sibling rivalry has a lot of legs and they have terrific "hate" chemistry, IMO. Furthermore, if there is a time where the 3 of them live "happily ever after" together, it should be done in a way that they will never trust each other completely.

I agree. Think "Jill/Kay"...or EVEN (when written right) "Jack/Ashley". There is love. But there is also anger and distrust. I like that whole complicated package.

Did Cliff beat on Adam when Hope wasn't looking? Otherwise, how did Saint Hope manage to raise such a vindictive, seemingly damaged character who resents the hell out of not being raised as a Newman?

Well, we were told Cliff was a paragon of virtue...a churchgoing farmer who wanted to protect Hope.

I think we're supposed to believe that "bad Adam" is Victor's genetic legacy.

But now we're seeing "schmuck Adam. Because I think Adam and Jack seem alike in looks and history (both Harvard men), it would work TOTALLY for me if Hope had a one-night stand, and schmuck-Adam turned out to be often-schmucky-Jack's son.

May I ask why? Not being facetious, just an honest question. I always thought Donnelly was the better Diane, not just because she was the original but because she was fierce -- fiercer than Susan Walters who, although fierce in or herself, didn't have the same magnetism as AD for me.

It's hard to explain. SW's Diane was a "love to hate" character for me. AD's Diane was just a "get her off my screen" character. She always came off as a dull, depressing, bitter old hag IMO. SW's Diane had more personality and made a better villain.

Speaking of SW's Diane, I LOVED this scene: http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=_ZBqPounxik

Edited October 23, 200817 yr by y&r_fan

Today we saw

Phyllis

Nick

Amber

Daniel

Kevin

Jana

River

Gloria

Michael

Katherine

Jill

Summer

Young River/Gloria/Micheal

Again ,Nick is supposed to be flat out juggling two jobs,but all he did was chat to Phyllis at work and then they were home smooching on the sofa.

I'm finding Daniel/Amber extra irritating.Now they're back together-what's the story??

Phyllis is embarassing in her behaviour in front of them.I guess it's supposed to be light hearted ...

Jill/Gloria and Kay/Jill were the best thing today.

Have you read Bibel's column?

LMAO "hippie consultant" That woman is just amazing!

Well, Y&R wouldn't do wrong by hiring Bibel.

I haven't watched any eps from this week either, but I'll catch up soon.

Poor Esther.

Neil & Tyra

Loved Billy's line.

Colleen: "I'm thinking of going over there and giving them a piece of my mind".

Billy: "But then Colleen, you wouldn't have much to work with."

Glad to see the viewers aren't' the only ones who have noticed Colleen's transformation from a smart woman to a stupid trollop.

^^^I have to agree with you here and Billy seems to get the great one-liners like this one all of the time. This actor is excellent that's more than I can say of some... Sorry, but I just cannot get on board with Tammin's Colleen even after all this time. I'd love to see Adrianne Leon back in that role.

I find it hard to believe that ANYONE has a voice that annoying

Nope, IMO Holeen and a few others TOTALLY takes the cake on that one.

Yep, Trampoleen's voice grates on my last nerve especially with her *cough* American accent *cough*.

Eden is already starting to grow on me although I don't care for this storyline with River. I rather enjoyed her scenes today with Noah and I always enjoy her scenes with Lauren. It's when she's in a scene with CLB that she just seems so over-the-top for me.

I'm enjoying the Katherine storyline and I can't wait to see how it turns out.

Edited October 24, 200817 yr by Heyou

Ok, so three cheers for the new casting director for getting a dead ringer of a "young Gloria Bardwell" for those flashback scenes!