Jump to content

Generations Discussion Thread


Max

Recommended Posts

  • 3 weeks later...
  • Replies 368
  • Created
  • Last Reply

Top Posters In This Topic

  • 3 weeks later...
  • 2 weeks later...
  • Members

It's a shame that this show floundered in the middle part of 1990. I think the start of the year is pretty compelling. I know that Jorn Winter did some really good things for the show, but I also feel like he recasted parts that weren't necessary. 

 

Randy Brooks was brought in as a love interest for Debbie Morgan after Morgan replaced Sharon Brown in March 1990. Brown's Chantal was never really featured in a starring capacity. When the show opened, she was involved with a dentist, but that relationship fell apart because the dentist wanted to domesticate her. They briefly toyed with the idea of playing a relationship between Chantal and Martin Jackson, but that was scuttled really quickly. I think that would have been a very interesting angle to play given the complicated nature of Martin's interactions with the Marshall family. The flirtation never went anywhere though.

 

I wonder if they considered pairing Chantal with the Myles Thoroughgood's Wally Beaumont. Wally was the scoop boy at the Marshall's Southside store. He had been a gang member but turned himself around. Henry saw him as a surrogate son and was a mentor to the young man. I believe they briefly played a rivalry between working class Wally and rich boy Adam Marshall. Thoroughgood was a recurring player at first, but was bumped to contract. I believe he was one of the first characters added to a contract outside the original cast. They never did anything with Wally, but I would have liked a love triangle with him, Brown's Chantal, and Martin Jackson. Alas, none of that played out. 

 

Anyway, I find the trial stuff with Eric drawn out. Eric was new, the victim was a homeless woman, and there wasn't much to play other than Chantal's end. The show had been really good at integrating the stories together. I know Gail Ramsey's Laura McCallum served on the jury, but it all plays out in such a bubble. When Kyle was introduced as Sam's love interest, he was investigating the death of Jason Craig so the story had more implication and drew in more characters. The show had no clue what to do with Jason and Monique. Maybe Eric should have run over one of the two of them with his car. At least the story would have had more of an umbrella effect. It also would have spared the audience from that lame duck art scam storyline. 

 

I don't understand how the show went from Jessica and Rob to Jessica and Reginald. I know Rob was a hard character because he had so few connections, but I liked his friendship with Daniel Reubens. Jessica and Rob as the outsiders worked for me. The stuff with Reginald just seems so vanilla. 

 

I like the initial Sam / Kyle / Jordan stuff. I think Jordan was a compelling character, but I don't think this art storyline worked. Eventually, it is revealed that he is tied to the mob (his biological father Nicholas Taylor was the mob boss who ran Peter Whitmore out of town), but I preferred George Shannon to Robert Gentry. Gentry seems bored a lot of the time. Also, Stacey Nelkins' Christy Russell was such a departure from Pat Talman's Christy that I wish they just made her a new character. For a fun couple, Sam and Kyle quickly became trite and predictable. 

 

The show should have just played Maya / Doreen all summer or at least continued the Maya / Martin pairing which they also teased. 

 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • 1 month later...
  • 3 months later...
  • Members

I believe they are mid-November 1989. Jason Craig’s murder was a sweeps story. I have episodes later in the month where they are doing the sickle cell test. The car accident probably was a Friday episode. 

This is a BET rerun. I believe newspapers.com had some summaries for the BET reruns. If someone has those it would be easier to establish a timeline.

By early December, Rob Donnelly has been accused of murder and sells the Whitmore estate to Ruth Marshall to afford the legal costs. 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • 1 month later...
  • Members

Not gonna lie, but when I saw this headline/lede, one of the first things that came to mind was that, if only the Marshall family had this sort of backdrop for their ice cream business, maybe that aspect would have been more interesting. I doubt that their writing staff would have had the skills to pull it off though.

 

 

 

That could have made an ace tagline for a promo though.

Please register in order to view this content

Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • 1 month later...

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.

Guest
Unfortunately, your content contains terms that we do not allow. Please edit your content to remove the highlighted words below.
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.

  • Recently Browsing   0 members

    • No registered users viewing this page.



  • Recent Posts

    • I feel like Vernon and Anita need to not be hypocrites and try and take the heat off Bill in this case. It's clear that the family used him as a fixer and especially knowing he helped with Martin's situation, they need to either be quiet or support him. BTW...with Vanessa being in the hospital for food poisoning, am I the only one who thought Shanice was gonna say she's pregnant or had an STD? The only reason I say STD is because she hasn't had any memorable sex partners, but I definitely don't believe she just had food poisoning.
    • Yeah, I mean I know that the name still pertains. I just laugh at it not now being called Arizona Dust, but, I admit it simply does not have the same ring to it. Above, that is interesting that Arizona had already come up before the crisis. 
    • Leslie and her family are from Chicago? Anita's background also includes being a former Chi-Town native? Might they connect this and go somewhere with it?
    • Honestly who's to say Leslie even birthed Eva, I mean she's a liar, I wouldn't believe a word she says about Eva being Ted's(or hers)
    •   1. 11/1/83 cast/set list:  

      Please register in order to view this content

          The "11/2/83" video you posted of Ruth Buzzi's scenes includes Roman and Hope in them, meaning the video you posted is actually 11/1/83, since Roman and Hope aren't in 11/2/83.   2. The video you posted of "11/2/83" has scenes with Roman and Hope. As you can see from my cast/set list, Roman and Hope are not in the 11/2/83 episode (see above note):   4573...11/2/83: Cast: Mickey, Julie, Doug, Maggie, Neil, Don, Marie, Alex, Liz, Andre as Tony, Gwen, Chris, Eugene, Sandy, Letitia, Charlene, Mrs. Whiting, Wanda/Guard, Dave, Delia, Saleslady # 1, Saleslady # 2, Figure in Dark, Raven/animal, Cats/animals, Birds/animals.   2.  11/3/83 :My video collection starts with 11/4/83. so I don't have the 11/1/83 or 11/3/83 video, but in addition to the cast/set list for 11/3/83, here is also the parking clearance call sheet for that day, showing Ruth was not only in the cast/set list but did work that day:     They even had hired the animal trainer and all the animals for the day, so It's sort of a certainty that her scenes were not cut that day, or it would have been a big waste of the budget. 3. As for 11/7/83, I just fast-forwarded through that whole episode myself. Letitia is in it from start to finish. It's her big final episode where she is killed. She starts the episode saying "Eugene, are you there?" In the next act, Marlena shows up and meets Letitia's lion. Later in the episode, Letitia is killed by "Eugene" (the Salem Slasher in a Eugene mask).   So, as we can see from your own post, the 11/2/83 date you have listed on that video is incorrect, since Hope and Roman are in that video but not in the 11/2/83 episode.It seems the dates you have on all your early November 1983 episodes are incorrect.   When you post videos and suggest that my data is incorrect, do you not first compare who is in the scenes and see if that matches who is in the episode? You didn't do that with the "11/2/83" episode, which based on Roman and Hope being in it means that is actually 11/1/83. Best to do something like that first before suggesting my data and research is incorrect.
    • Within the Dupree family, I predict Vernon/Anita will be conflicted about what to do about Bill and his role in the whole Ted/Silk Press Sheila situation... especially since Bill knows where the particular bone about Martin is buried. Dani, Chelsea, and Naomi's reactions to what Bill possibly did isn't hard to guess.. but Hayley's reactions will be interesting to hear.  Especially given her recent pregnancy scare.. she might not be so much on Bill's side, or she'll totally surprise us and be totally on Bill's side.   Either way, I think Martin's secret will be the main focus in May sweeps.. with the fall out of the Eva secret playing out in the background... while the Joey/Vanessa/Doug thing continues to boil/develop.
    • Hotel was The Love Boat on land but a little soapier. I will forever maintain that Hotel was a time slot hit. I don't believe that 1983/84 Hotel was a better show than Knots Landing.
    • The Golden Girls key episodes by ratings September 14, 1985: The Engagement (series premiere), rating 25.0, #1 Season highs February 22, 1986: Adult Education, rating 25.2 October 4, 1986: Ladies of the Evening, rating 27.3 November 8, 1986: Isn't it Romantic, rating 27.3 February 6, 1988: My Brother, My Father; rating 24.6 November 26, 1988: Sophia's Wedding (Part 2), rating 24.3, #1 September 23, 1989: Sick and Tired (Part 1) (season 5 premiere), rating 23.5 January 12, 1991: Sisters of the Bride, rating 19.3 May 9, 1992: One Flew Out of the Cuckoo's Nest (series finale), rating 18.9 Season lows October 19, 1985: The Triangle, rating 18.6 May 16, 1987: Empty Nests (season 2 finale), rating 17.8 February 20, 1988: And Ma Makes Three, rating 18.0 April 29, 1989: Rites of Spring, rating 18.7 April 28, 1990: All Bets are Off, rating 15.8 February 16, 1991: Older and Wiser, rating 11.6 October 26, 1991: Mother Load, rating 10.9 Ten highest-rated episodes October 4, 1986: Ladies of the Evening, rating 27.3 November 8, 1986: Isn't it Romantic, rating 27.3 January 3, 1987: The Sisters, rating 27.0 November 22, 1986: Family Affair, rating 26.8 January 10, 1987: The Stan Who Came to Dinner, rating 26.6 January 24, 1987: Before and After, rating 26.4 February 28, 1987: Whose Face is This, Anyway?; rating 25.8 September 27, 1986: End of the Curse (season 2 premiere), rating 25.6 November 15, 1986: Big Daddy's Little Lady, rating 25.3 February 22, 1986: Adult Education, rating 25.2 Ten lowest-rated episodes October 26, 1991: Mother Load, rating 10.9 September 28, 1991: The Case of the Libertine Belle, rating 10.9 October 19, 1991: Where's Charlie?, rating 11.0 February 15, 1992: Ebbtide VI: The Wrath of Stan, rating 11.3 February 16, 1991: Older and Wiser, rating 11.6 December 14, 1991: The Pope's Ring, rating 11.7 April 25, 1992: Home Again, Rose (Part 1); rating 12.3 October 5, 1991: Beauty and the Beast, rating 12.7 November 2, 1991: Dateline: Miami, rating 12.7 December 7, 1991: From Here to the Pharmacy, rating 12.8
×
×
  • Create New...

Important Information

By using this site, you agree to our Terms of Use and Privacy Policy