OLTL: Discussion for the week August 4th-8th

[margie619]

I can't stand Nora and Clint. I hope David finds out that he is a Buchanan before he leaves again.

[detroitpiston]

I was hoping they'd recast Sarah. Oh well.

[brimike]

I wonder if they tried to pull a Trevor St. John (re: Todd's execution) with Justus/Sarah, what with leaking the "fired" rumor, and then saying last week "it'll be some time before we see her again".

Doesn't pack the same punch, do it?

[Ryan]

Not at all. The Trevor St. John stuff really had me for a bit. He was removed from spoilers, the actor did exit interviews. I was all sold. That's the way it should be done.

[Vee]

I get the sense that the rumored Langston connection to

is what Clint will use on Dorian. The editing with them today seemed to indicate that. I'm all for that story.

Antonio and Talia got me. She's such a badass.

[DeeeDee]

The way Brandon Buddy speaks is hilarious.

"Sterr we hev tew thenk about thee bebe!"

Dorian is Love.

[Ryan]

Talia is one of my favorite characters on the show. Thankfully they haven't written her as a victim, and her character has been allowed to blossom over time. I hope they explore the Talia/Carlo relationship more.

[DeeeDee]

Talia makes Antonio likeable

[Ryan]

I totally agree. Before Talia I wanted Antonio dead.

The funny thing is, Christina Chambers' Marty made me like John too. Maybe all they needed was a good woman.

[DeeeDee]

You too?! *hi-five*

And an Ab Roller.

[EricMontreal22]

Was HEaven Can Wait the Al/Michael mess a few years ago based on the movie of the title with Warren BEatty? Wasn't that Fall? Or am I dense and you jsut mean Vicki

Also, Anna Karenina is in my top 3 novels of all time... I don't really see the Mendorra connection, or again am I confusing the stories...

I do agree with your point, I can watch and enjoy it. I start to get uncomfortable though when things affect the "real" OLTL back in Llanview. Many people said that OLTL went too far in their 80s time travel story when, during the writer's strike back then, the scabs took over and they made it so that it no longer could just be CLint's dream, when Vicki time traveled to save him. Already the current version has done the same, what with David losing his reflection, etc

[rhinohide]

Sorry, I wasn't trying to be accurate in terms of the films'/novels' relationships to the current stories on OLTL. Just the Fantasy/Sci Fi/Period Piece and the lack of continuity and relevance to each other.

[All My Shadows]

My sentiments, exactly. I liked the 1968 stuff the first day or two. It was fun. I enjoyed it. I liked it a lot. But two weeks later? No thanks. It's just stupid and unnecessary, IMO, and I also hate the fact that all of the "real" storylines seemed to just take a back seat so that all of the 1968/Mendorra stuff could take center stage. I'm far more interested in the Starr/Cole mess (and I use the term in a good way) than in the Mendorra [!@#$%^&*].

[RoseVioletDaisy]

ITA, the anniversary has been an enormous clusterfu**. The show is starting to remind me of the early days of Wheeler/Kreizman on GL because they started out with alot of viewer support because they got rid of some unpopular newbies, SORAS'd some core family's kids, and focused more on long-term characters. But it soon became clear that while they knew and understood the show's past, they didn't necessarily respect it like the viewers did and started mangling it rather quickly.

I'm sorry but when you have to start comparing your HW to Jim Reilly in order to assess his work, the train has run off the track. Jim Reilly began the slow, agonizing death of soaps by filling DOOL with worthless dreck and when it actually garnered some ratings, every other show became obsessed with trying to match or top the insanity he created. It worked for a very short time but 12-17 year olds have short attention spans and when all the demons were exorcised, vampires slayed, and clones destroyed, the only people left watching were honest to goodness soap fans who couldn't believe that their shows had sunk to such pathetic depths just to get some attention and some are only now starting to right themselves.

While I enjoyed the events surrounding the big BE shareholders meeting, Dorian's takeover, and Nash's death, this show has gone downhill so fast since that it's mind-boggling. It's funny because I began watching again as a refugee of what was, at that time, the godawful GL and now GL seems to suddenly be on the cusp of a major creative upswing while OLTL is plunging into the toilet at warp speed. In fact, OLTL is very closely resembling GL at some of it's lowest points in recent memory. The Mendorra mess is so similar to the San Cristobel debacle that's it's eerie, right down to the dastardly Thom Christopher character threatening to assassinate innocent American citizens. As fond as my memories of Tina and Carlo both are, the Mendorra story is a mess and a half. Both of these characters used to be much more intelligent and shrewd.

The '68 garbage is not only reminiscent of the Reva time travelling by jumping through paintings story, it's worse. At least the Reva story had a point: to show that Josh & Reva wered fate to be together. And Josh & Reva were legacy characters and the characters standing in for those around them in the past fit into the story in a certain way. What's the point of this? To show us that Rex & Gigi and Natalie & Jared all belong together? Who cares? The first two are dull as dishwater newbies who are being played two horrible actors while the second two characters are reprehensible criminals who defrauded the Buchanan's costing them the business Asa created and killed Nash. Why should I care? Rex as Bo? Puhleeze. Jared as Clint? Ugh. Natalie as Maria? Not even close. And why is that atrocious Fifi/Mimi/Gigi/whatever-the heck-Farah-Fath's-latest abominable-character-is-called still around at all?

I'm not even gonna get into the insulting and offensive Todd's mind-raping of Marty and the inevitable rapist/victim romance that is clearly imminent.

[Toups]

Right, because one man is responsible for destroying an entire genre. Come on. And soaps were way ridiculous before Jim Reilly ever started writing. Jim Reilly was successull for FIVE STRAIGHT YEARS leading up to DAYS highest ratings in the 90's. When DAYS was sitting in what, 7th, 8th, place in 1992, Jim Reilly went out and brought in new viewers (I being one of them).

When Buried Alive happened, did those viewers with "short attention span" leave? No. When Masion Blanche happened, or when Sami raped Austin and got pregnent, or when The Possession happened, or when Aremid happened or when Lady in a Cage happened, or when Susan Banks arrived and held Kristen/Marlena in a Secret Room, did those viewers with "short attention span" leave? No. It's not his fault other people in the industry didn't understand his method of madness. Jim Reilly had more entertaining stories in those 5 years than DAYS has had in the last 10 years.

I think it's one of the best storylines in daytime. Mind-raping is totally awesome to watch. More bad guys should do it more often...like Stefano Dimera...I hope he mind-rapes Marlena for putting him in a coma.