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Speaking of John Sugden.....

He must be one of the most ridiculous characters ever created for this show not named Dingle. His whole purpose is to be a replacement for Robert. Making him a Sugden was nothing but a pathetic attempt to re-create the success of Robert/Aaron. He has absolutely no connection to anything Sugden except the name. Him being Jack's son has filled no purpose whatsoever and I wonder if it has meant anything to anyone. I doubt anyone who is still a Sugden-fan has been pleased with his presence, and I don't think any remaining Aaron/Robert fans care.

 

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3 hours ago, I Am A Swede said:

Speaking of John Sugden.....

He must be one of the most ridiculous characters ever created for this show not named Dingle. His whole purpose is to be a replacement for Robert. Making him a Sugden was nothing but a pathetic attempt to re-create the success of Robert/Aaron. He has absolutely no connection to anything Sugden except the name. Him being Jack's son has filled no purpose whatsoever and I wonder if it has meant anything to anyone. I doubt anyone who is still a Sugden-fan has been pleased with his presence, and I don't think any remaining Aaron/Robert fans care.

The odd part is they haven't even tried to recreate most of the Aaron/Robert relationship, unless they think the only reason they had fans was Robert being unpleasant to people and being a Sugden. It's all so half-hearted. I still assume the whole thing is just so John will be revealed as evil or an abuser and Aaron will have to be saved from him. 

Either that or he will just leave town, like Pierce's son who was presumably meant to be much more than he was (a shame as I liked the actor).

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On 1/25/2025 at 4:05 PM, DRW50 said:

The "left him for dead" part makes me think someone else killed him. Given that they have apparently hinted of John Sugden killing people, my guess is it's him.

I still think 

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John killed Nate

 

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I wonder why they never axed Victoria with that little she has left family wise and story wise. I wouldn’t even notice by now if she was gone for good. I loved her but it would free up some salary.

Axing Leyla was upsetting but definitely a wise move coz there was nothing to do with her anymore.

Amelia on the other hand I can’t get my head around.

April will be found and she seems been through a lot and I’m like: no one cares! Axe her!

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40 minutes ago, AMCOLTLLover said:

I wonder why they never axed Victoria with that little she has left family wise and story wise. I wouldn’t even notice by now if she was gone for good. I loved her but it would free up some salary.

Axing Leyla was upsetting but definitely a wise move coz there was nothing to do with her anymore.

Amelia on the other hand I can’t get my head around.

April will be found and she seems been through a lot and I’m like: no one cares! Axe her!

I think she has only stayed on due to being the last Sugden.

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I'm sure there are lots of stuff you could do with both Victoria and Leyla but they're not named Dingle, or associated with anyone named Dingle, so no one in charge gives a damn about them.

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So, it wasn't Aaron after all who killed Anthony. It was hos own daughter Ruby, the person he molested. In other words, a repeat of the story with Alan Turner's children Steph and Terence years ago. But I seriously doubt that Ruby, one of the show's new pets, will meet the same fate that Steph did and be sent to prison.

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On 1/28/2025 at 6:29 AM, I Am A Swede said:

I'm sure there are lots of stuff you could do with both Victoria and Leyla but they're not named Dingle, or associated with anyone named Dingle, so no one in charge gives a damn about them.

Some of the backstage rumors involving Victoria make me less interested in ever seeing her in leading material, but I do agree there's more they could do with her. Leyla going will never make any sense to me. I blame that whole unit with David being ruined, again partly due to backstage issues.

12 minutes ago, I Am A Swede said:

So, it wasn't Aaron after all who killed Anthony. It was hos own daughter Ruby, the person he molested. In other words, a repeat of the story with Alan Turner's children Steph and Terence years ago. But I seriously doubt that Ruby, one of the show's new pets, will meet the same fate that Steph did and be sent to prison.

I do wonder if that would have been Steph's fate if Lorraine Chase hadn't wanted to leave. 

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12 hours ago, DRW50 said:

Some of the backstage rumors involving Victoria make me less interested in ever seeing her in leading material, but I do agree there's more they could do with her. Leyla going will never make any sense to me. I blame that whole unit with David being ruined, again partly due to backstage issues.

I know about the rumours regarding Isabel Hodgins, Matthew Wolfenden and Paige Sandhu (Meena), but you make it sound like there's more?

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6 minutes ago, I Am A Swede said:

I know about the rumours regarding Isabel Hodgins, Matthew Wolfenden and Paige Sandhu (Meena), but you make it sound like there's more?

That is the main stuff, yes. 

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I wouldn't mind a re-cast of Victoria if that's what it would take. Isabel has been in the role for a long time, but she's not exactly Meryl Streep....  :P

I realize that won't happen though. The Sugdens have been an afterthought for decades at this point and I see no signs that that is about to change. The addition of John made absolutely no difference in that respect. His connection to the Sugdens means nothing and has never meant anything other than being a blatant attempt to recreate the success of Aaron/Robert.

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I always thought they overdid their episodes of Corrie and ED. I mean who needs like 6-7 episodes a week for god damn sake lol only time they are off the air is their one off day and when soccer is on

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