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Can I just say how awesome it is that we're able to discuss an issue that some feel strongly about and express our opinions intelligently? That doesn't happen on too many boards, and I just wanted to point that out.

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Count me as one of the third group. IMO one of the saddest things is that years ago daytime treated socially relevant story lines with greater integrity and sensitivity. Ground breaking stories that got people talking and watching like Erica and her abortion, Robin and Stone dealing with Aids. For these stories the shows treated the viewers with respect and they were rewarded with higher ratings.

IMO these days the audience has been exposed to more. We are more educated in the ways of the world. People see and talk about issues that used to be kept private. But instead of writing with truth and intelligence the way primetime does (CSI, HOUSE, ER), daytime has fumbled and the ratings reflect it (Erica's un-abortions and EJami).

Before we get into the whole Luke and Laura thing I just want to say that I was watching back then and EJami is NO Luke and Laura:

Luke was raised in a brothel and his mother, sister and aunt where prostitues.

EJ went to boarding schools and Oxford.

Laura was infatuated with Luke and he was enamored of her.

Sami was in love with Lucas and EJ thought Sami's feistiness was hot.

Luke thought he was going to die and tried to grab hold of his one chance to be with Laura.

EJ wanted to please his daddy.

Afterward Luke was immediately horrified by what he had done

After the 'rape' EJ was "floating on a sea of endorphins".

I blame it on the lazy writing but the result is that these days I'm embarrassed to be caught watching soaps.

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And you're being a complete smartass because...?

Back on topic, I agree with Roman's POV, and as a victim of sexual assault myself, it really is offensive that someone would fall in love with their rapists. Just imagining the concept of that with me in place of Sami, well its just makes me want to vomit.

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I want to reiterate what one poster said above. On the net there are so many boards full of shallow people screaming for a fan base and just blindly posting junk that has no substance. This IS a major issue. A victim sleeping with her rapist just a few months after the assualt should spark debate. It should spark outrage. I'm sorry but I fail to see any good point to this storyline.

I have NEVER been a "fanbase" viewer. In the decades I've been a fan of this show, I've come close at times, with Doug and Julie, Roman (Wayne) and Marlena, Shane and Kim....but I never started watching because of one couple or actor. I just think thats a narrow view of a very broad show. I'm not basing my opinions on this wretched plot on my love or hate for Lumi or Ejami. I like all the characters involved to a certain degree. I mean all characters involved represent the future of this show for the core families (Hortons, Bradys and Dimeras).

The point isn't chemistry or love for a couple. It's the idea that a woman would sleep with her rapist without closure or atleast a long admission of guilt from the attacker followed by a period of healing.

To make this about a couple really misses the point. It's disturbing, It's wrong. Thats my opinion, but I think it should make people think about the direction the show is taking. Anytime a show tries to redeem a rapist, it should cause some to balk. When a show goes this far, and has a victim go after her rapist after he's victimized her time and time again. After he's tortured her and stalked her for enjoyment after the fact. No words for it.

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Good post. I'm not saying you're "wrong" but I don't agree with certain things...

ITA! And Ryan I agree with your last post. It is *very* nice to be able to have a civilized discussion (knock on wood ;))

It really is NOT a major issue. It might be an issue for Days, but it isn't a major issue. There are enough things going on in the world (country, state, city, home) that are reason for outrage, sorrow and activism. I'm sorry but, imo, outrage over ANYTHING that happens on Days (or any other soap) is giving too much importance to non-reality. Discussion = Yes; Outrage = No. And it really has been more than just a few months. If they'd gone in this direction in May after the episode I would have agreed that it was too soon -- not too soon for the characters to talk about it, but too soon for anything beyond that.

I agree. I've also loved various couples over the years but have mainly been a fan of the show. And the cast - since they (along with the writers) make the show what it is. Good point though, and I hope there actually IS a future for Days.

The point may not be chemistry but it sure doesn't hurt - and it was the starting point for all of the major couples over the years. As for love of a couple, some fans seem obsessive and things get blown out of proportion way too often. I tend to agree with others who have stated that while Days might have long-time and loyal viewers, the various fanbases have hurt the show.

Closure, admission of guilt and healing are subjective and have very little (or nothing) to do with the time frames or dictates of others -- in real life that is, and it doesn't matter if the victim is a male or female. How many people have been brutalized, murdered and buried where the perpetrator is never found? Does this mean the loved ones of the victim(s) never heal or find closure? Sometimes they don't but more often than not they do, at least to a point. It's a matter of survival (emotional as well as physical). The same applies to people who are vicitimized in other ways. I wouldn't expect you or anyone else to move on - or not move on - because I say it's time. That wouldn't make sense, would it?

This is about a soap couple - and two characters on a soap. I don't take it personally. Sorry, I just can't do it. Or maybe I just don't and therefore won't do it. I control what I watch, I didn't learn morals from the media or a tv program, and I don't apply real life standards to Days or any other program. I don't expect everyone to agree with me. I don't expect to agree with everyone. I'm not trying to push my motives and agenda on other Days viewers, but I won't buy into selective morality and/or lose sleep over what's happening on Days. I don't get into the fanbase campaigns - too much time and effort that could be spent doing other things: things that matter in real life. Yes I love Days and I love to talk about the show, but once the tv and computer are off... life goes on... for as much time that I'm granted that is... and there's always a child who needs a hug, an animal that needs tended to, a veteran to thank, a loved one to say 'I love you' to...etc... real things, real people...

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