Members JackPeyton Posted May 8, 2008 Members Share Posted May 8, 2008 I am so happy that Ej & Sami talk about that night before they have sex. i so cant wait for this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members brimike Posted May 8, 2008 Members Share Posted May 8, 2008 See, it's that SECOND part of the sentence that rubs me the wrong way. Good writing can ABSOLUTELY get Sami to that point. But NOT the same night they talk about it. "Oh, you're sorry? Great, I'll give it up now!" Yeah, no. That's not gonna happen. And Shakespeare himself couldn't sell that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Loretta3938 Posted May 8, 2008 Members Share Posted May 8, 2008 I've never been a fan of Higley, but I think she is trying to deal with this and move on. How many years can the pro-Ejami and pro-Lumi fans continue debating this on the message boards? Most of us, no matter what side we're on, have already made up our minds about Dec. 29th. Not even another San Francisco earthquake could shake up our differing points of view. It is time to move on and argue about other things. I watched Dec. 29th, but I also watched Sami's behavior after that night. Her behavior wasn't what you would expect to see from a regular rape victim. If Hogan really planned that as a defining rape for Ejami's relationship, I don't believe he would have had Sami spending so much time trying to keep the secret of that night from Lucas or secretly plotting to kill EJ in such a familial way. EJ wouldn't have spent so much time coming to Sami's rescue against his family last summer. Overall, I feel this is one plot that deserves to be buried, although I'm disappointed Hogan didn't handle it better than he did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DrewH Posted May 8, 2008 Members Share Posted May 8, 2008 Actually, I'm pretty sure Tom C. said that EJ and Sami were never intended to be a romantic couple after the "incident." They would always be involved with each other and in each other's circle, but a romantic relationship would never happen between the two. I agree that that should be how it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Roman Posted May 8, 2008 Members Share Posted May 8, 2008 The reason why DH is getting blame for this is because she is writing the show now. To blame Hogan or his people for this when they are no longer and she is, IMO, is wrong. Corday and her have decided to white-wash this entire episode. And I'll applaud this when they actually address it, which they haven't. Other than a few scenes this entire mess has been swept over, IMO. They now have taken the same type of story from Luke & Laura on GH and are about to pretty much do the same thing..........which absolutely stinks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Ryan Posted May 8, 2008 Members Share Posted May 8, 2008 I'm not picking a fight with you Loretta, but many people don't like Ejami or Lumi, but hate the fact that a woman who was raped and tortured by her rapist (because he did torture her for months after) is going to be paired romantically with him. My second thing is, how is a regular rape victim supposed to act? Is she supposed to cry in the shower while having flashbacks to that horrible night? No, I think Sami never truly addressed what happened to her, she tried to forget it happened. He did say that Drew. I think James and Ali have great chemistry (some don't). I would have loved EJ and Sami to always have sexual tension, but that was ruined for me the night EJ RAPED Sami. That's my problem with this too Roman. I'll admit Hogan did not handle the EJ/Sami rape story the way I feel it should have been handled, but to white-wash what he has done is unacceptable to me. I'd would be fine if Sami and EJ admitted they have feelings for another, but have Sami say she will never be able to be involved with him because of what he did to her. Have that be something that haunts EJ for the rest of his life. The fact that he COULD have been with Sami, if it wasn't for the fact that he raped her. Forgiveness and trying to move on with your life is one thing. I mean they have a child together, they have to interact, but to have him around your family (and even have them pushing you two together) is ridiculous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Roman Posted May 8, 2008 Members Share Posted May 8, 2008 I also find it wrong that she didn't want to seduce him (If for once the cover of SOW is right) until he was showing interest in another woman. She's trying to get her rapist in bed because she's jealous. Now what is that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members electrorat Posted May 8, 2008 Members Share Posted May 8, 2008 Ejami will be the final nail in Days' coffin. What a tragedy that Alison Sweeney is standing by and letting her 15 year legacy character be destroyed for such an offensive and revolting storyline. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members KevC1980 Posted May 8, 2008 Members Share Posted May 8, 2008 Actually Toups, if you read the article Sami and EJ have a talk about that fateful night that Hogan had to write...I'm actually looking forward to Sami and EJ hooking up, the chemistry is there and i'm really enjoying them again..and its such a soapy moment to have Lucas return to barge in on them in bed.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members JackPeyton Posted May 8, 2008 Members Share Posted May 8, 2008 ^you are so right. Alison should just change the script heres the thing, and yes i ama ware this is going to start alot of hate and bashing on me but whatver.. it wasnt rape. it wast. she wanted him to do something for her, he told her he would for sex. she didnt want to have sex but she wasnt forced into it. there. i said it. hate me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Wales2004 Posted May 8, 2008 Members Share Posted May 8, 2008 It's an absolute white wash. Soaps seem to thrive on giving the viewers moral dilemmas. On the one hand you separate the actors from the characters and recognize the potential of pairing them together. But on the other hand, you are stuck with the reality of the characters' actions. Sami seducing EJ is meant to make it more comfortable for people taking issue with their being together. No matter what they say in reference to that night, it is supposed to boil down to Sami being jealous of Nicole and trying to lure EJ away. You can conclude whatever is more comfortable to you. She's just doing it out of her hate for Nicole or she's been suppressing her feelings for EJ all along. They might not even have sex at all since I think it the question is asked as to whether EJ gives in. I kind of get the impression that he might halt it to show he's really a better person now which gives them more mileage to lay this completely at Sami's feet since if she can move on so should the viewers. I am opposed to this sort of thing but I didn't go for Luke and Laura being together either. I think the original intent must have been to have Sami and EJ have sex so she could have his baby, without having her cheat on Lucas outright. They had ample opportunity to have that occur before Lucas and Sami actually got back together in the first place instead of rape. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members JackPeyton Posted May 8, 2008 Members Share Posted May 8, 2008 THAT is sami brady. and again, these is more to it than that. like the fact that lucas tells her to move on. the fact that shes been falling for him for years now, she wanted to have lucas and keep ej in her pocket for just inc ase. nicole coming along has threated that and shes acting out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Ponz Posted May 8, 2008 Members Share Posted May 8, 2008 JS's comment in the latest SOD takes the cake. Speaking of Johnny's 'conception': "Hopefully, it will be the last time they reference it". This is the sickest, most depraved story ever aired on DOOL. All involved should be ashamed of themselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Roman Posted May 8, 2008 Members Share Posted May 8, 2008 We see this completely differently. To me, it was rape, and I find it distasteful, no matter what the circumstance, that she is even considering being with EJ in any way, shape or form. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members PhoenixRising05 Posted May 8, 2008 Members Share Posted May 8, 2008 I remember hearing that but I can't say I buy it. Why keep them in a neverending cycle like that? At some point, you have to give the character of EJ something else if that was leading to nothing. They didn't and if that was the plan why was EJ's shooting and the scenes in the hospital touted as a "love story" and filmed like the start of one as well. I'm not even a fan of EJ/Sami but they were clearly going there. I mean, Lucas was revealed to have shot EJ and was arrested. EJ found John and it brought him closer to Sami for coming forward so there is enough there for me to not be able to buy the fact that they didn't want them together in the end. I'm sure Corday pushed that on Hogan too just like he is Dena. Dena loves Lumi. Yes, things can change but her whole first run on Days was full of pushing them. That is why I can't go nuts pointing my finger at her. I point the finger at Corday. If he wanted EJ/Sami, then they should've handled the story better. I know Hogan probably wrote the rape so I'm not sure where he was going and I really think he was writing the EJ he wanted until May when the show started whitewashing what he did. That is when I think Corday got involved and hasn't stopped since. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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