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Like many, I'm hooked on the SoapNet re-runs of this canceled soap. At its peak, it was perhaps that most realistic and gritty American soap to be produced. It had an exceptional core cast, add to that the fantastic writing from Claire Labine and Paul Avila Mayer during its golden years and you have a gem.

So, any other RH fans out there?

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Goodbye to my first and only and enduring television mother, the incomparable Helen Gallagher: she was tough, kind, talented, full of laughter, and a triple threat to boot.

But always tender towards me.

Rest in peace, dear Helen. 🍀

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Oddly, I found an ad in a commercial bloc today that has a different version of the Ann portion. I suppose that's more common than I realized.

 

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Interesting to hear Kate talk about why she came back to RH.

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"Mrs. Columbo"/"Kate Loves a Mystery" could have been a wonderful prime-time vehicle for Kate Mulgrew (even WITH the bad writing, lol), but Universal really set the show and her up for failure by tying them like they did with "Columbo."

Of course, I'm sure people remember her now from "Star Trek: Voyager" more than they do from RH, but I don't think KM should've been too horrified at the thought of people coming up to her and mentioning the show years after she had left.  It's not easy to become someone whom viewers welcome into their homes five days a week.  Many try, but they don't all succeed.  If and when they do, it's not a curse, but a blessing, because you know that, no matter where else you go in your career, you'll have a fan base who will follow you.

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7 minutes ago, Khan said:

"Mrs. Columbo"/"Kate Loves a Mystery" could have been a wonderful prime-time vehicle for Kate Mulgrew (even WITH the bad writing, lol), but Universal really set the show and her up for failure by tying them like they did with "Columbo."

Of course, I'm sure people remember her now from "Star Trek: Voyager" more than they do from RH, but I don't think KM should've been too horrified at the thought of people coming up to her and mentioning the show years after she had left.  It's not easy to become someone whom viewers welcome into their homes five days a week.  Many try, but they don't all succeed.  If and when they do, it's not a curse, but a blessing.

Mimi Torchin chided her in SPW around the mid '90s for saying she wasn't known for other work, or for her stage plays like Hedda, etc. pointing out that Mulgrew hadn't done enough memorable work post-Mary to be recognized for those roles. But I always assumed Kate reacting that way was her knowing those roles just hadn't registered.

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23 minutes ago, DRW50 said:

Mimi Torchin chided her in SPW around the mid '90s for saying she wasn't known for other work, or for her stage plays like Hedda, etc. pointing out that Mulgrew hadn't done enough memorable work post-Mary to be recognized for those roles. But I always assumed Kate reacting that way was her knowing those roles just hadn't registered.

If Kate Mulgrew had concentrated on building a career and "name" for herself in theater post-RH, with the occasional film or TV guest role gig to supplement her income, she might've become another Julie Harris or Colleen Dewhurst.  But not only did she choose to concentrate instead on film and TV, she also attached herself to some very questionable projects, such as that "Reno Williams" movie mentioned in the interview. 

And I understand, too, that actors often have to take on projects that smell from a mile away just to keep their utilities on, but I also believe that if you want to achieve that next level in your career where the right projects come to you and the bad ones stay away, then there comes a point when you've gotta tell Ron Stephenson's people over at "Murder, She Wrote" not to put you up anymore for guest shots, if only so you DON'T end up spending years in thankless parts before lucking upon something like "Voyager" (which certainly wasn't "I, Claudius," or even DS9, but was something with a built-in fan base that finally gave her some name recognition beyond RH).  And I say that as someone who LOVES MSW.

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Mrs. Columbo, staring Kate Mulgrew, was a flop, but in the age of three-network-primetime it was important enough that arguably she had become a big name outside of RH.  I understand that a soap columnist in the early 90s might have been dismissive of her fame, but she was still well known, especially from miniseries like the Manions of America.  I mean if you look at her IMDB she worked every year between her appearences on RH.

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I love soap Xmas endings.  Had never seen this. They seemed like a great company in the early years.  I was always bored with Labine/Mayer's RH at the time. But I have a new appreciation for the early years after seeing some clips post Helen's death.  When Claire returned in the 1980s she hired an aspiring writer to do one script a week: David Appell. He and I were in a soap writing class at the New School in NYC taught by nutcase Barbara Seiger, a PBS writer who Tom King had hired to do scripts after Harding left.  David was a nice guy and he spoke very highly of Claire and how nurturing she was with new writers.  She tried out many script writers over the years some went on to big things.  

 

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2 hours ago, VelekaCarruthers said:

David was a nice guy and he spoke very highly of Claire and how nurturing she was with new writers.  She tried out many script writers over the years some went on to big things.

I'm always amazed at how many awesome writers - Allan Leicht, Sherry Coben, Liz Coe, Jeffrey Lane, etc. - passed through RH over the years.  If nothing else, Claire Labine (and Paul Avila Mayer) had a knack for finding real talent.

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3 hours ago, VelekaCarruthers said:

I love soap Xmas endings.  Had never seen this. They seemed like a great company in the early years.  I was always bored with Labine/Mayer's RH at the time. But I have a new appreciation for the early years after seeing some clips post Helen's death.  When Claire returned in the 1980s she hired an aspiring writer to do one script a week: David Appell. He and I were in a soap writing class at the New School in NYC taught by nutcase Barbara Seiger, a PBS writer who Tom King had hired to do scripts after Harding left.  David was a nice guy and he spoke very highly of Claire and how nurturing she was with new writers.  She tried out many script writers over the years some went on to big things.  

Thanks for the extra details. Fascinating.

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I dont know how to embed here but Kate Mulgrew spoke briefly about Helen Gallagher at a fan convention recently, it's on youtube and starts at 31.24

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