Jump to content

ALL: When bad recasts happen to good characters!


Recommended Posts

  • Members

didnt the actress' that play Laurie go on to become a good actress? mean girls, veronica mars? or was that someone else?

there are so many diff levels to a bad recast tho. there is when the actor is just bad (in the case of KA as Billie on Days). When the char is written awful (as when LR came back to Days). and a few others.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • Replies 44
  • Created
  • Last Reply
  • Members

I liked Sandra Nelson!!

I thought she brought a more vulnerable side to Phyllis,who up till then had been a total bitch that nobody would put up with - even the saintly Danny and Cricket.

Sarah Aldrich as Victoria Newman.She was colorless and the show seemed to realise it too.She was given little to do and then dropped.

Philece Sampler as Donna on AW.Presented as way too young to be Anne Heche's mother, and completely miscast as a replacement for Anna Stuart.

Harriet Hall as Brooke on AMC.

Dennis Cole as Lance on Y&R

Kelly Kruger and Ryan Brown as Mac and Billy on Y&R

Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • Members

Actually, Amanda Seyfried (on Mean Girls fame) played Joni Stafford, Jamie and later Reggies romantic interest. She was a wonderful actress who did not get her due when she was abruptly let go when MMT came on. I think her last episode was Erica and Jack's wedding that wasn't (which was the last for Micah Alberti too).

Alexandra Daddario played Laurie and she, like Riddings, blew.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • Members

This is a good thread, as their have been so many temp and permanent recasts on daytime for various and sundry reasons over the last few years. Some of them rocked the house, while others were as dull as dishwater. I know that alot of people have focused on the recasts that had us wishing to have our teeth scrapped by the dentist, rather than watching them day in and day out. While I included those, I also decided to focus on some of the recasts that I found to be good over the years. These are JMO, and I understand if you do not agree with me. So with all that said, here are my thoughts.

Good

Peter Bergman-Jack Abbott- The Young and the Restless. I liked Terry Lester in the role, just the looks he could give made you realize Jack was the quintessential bad boy even if he was trying to be good. Peter Bergman can still bring that bad boy element to Jack and I think he was a pretty good recast for the role of Jack.

Sandra Nelson- Phyllis Summers- The Young and the Restless. Yes Nelson was no Michele Stafford, but I did enjoy her in the role of Phyllis of when Stafford left to try her hand in primetime and film. As someone stated earlier, Nelson brought out the vulnerable, softer side of Phyllis....but she could aslo be a MEGA bitch too when need be. I even remember the Michael/Phyllis romance when Nelson was in the role. She was a pretty good recast.

Sabine Singh- Greenlee Smythe DuPres Lavery Montgomery- All My Children. While I am a fan of Rebecca Budig and am somewhat glad to see her back on the show, I must admit the longer Sabine played the role the better she got. I could definitely dig her as Greenlee and she began to make the role her own. AMC missed a potential gem by releasing her.

Sandra Ferguson- Felicia Scorpio Jones- General Hospital. I may be in the minority here and I do LOVE Kristina Wagner and her Felicia portrayal. However, I do think that Ferguson did a good job when she was recast in the role a few years back. It was a shame that the show used her only a few times and then sent Felicia off again.

Bad

Amanda Baker- Babe Carey- All My Children. Okay I was a fan of AH in the role and wish that the show would've written the character of Babe off with AH. Amanda Baker is as dull as dishwater in the role. She has no chemsitry what so ever with Jacob Young or Billy Miller, and she bears no resemblance to Krystal or David. At least, AH resembled BE somewhat and that helped make their mother/daughter relationship a bit more believable. Amanda Baker leaves alot to be desired with her portrayal.

Melody Anderson- Natalie Dillon-All My Children. I guess I got used to seeing the spunky, spitfire, in your face Natalie when she was played by Kate Collins. When Anderson was cast in the role, Natalie became dull and a classic stepford wife. Even though I wish Natalie was still around to reek havoc in Pine Valley, as long as Anderson would be in the role I am glad she is gone.

Charity Rahmer- Belle Black-Days of Our Lives. Okay she was probably the shortest recast in daytime. I guess Days was desperate to fill the void left by Kirsten Storms when she vacated the role of Belle, but Rahmer was just downright HORRID. I am glad that someone over at Days said "WTH did we do" and corrected their mistake pronto.

Sandra Ferguson- Brooke Logan- The Bold and the Beautiful. Even though I liked her recast on GH, I did not like Ferguson when she took over for Katherine Kelly Lang on B&B. I think this was during Lang's last maternity leave. She did not bring the spunk to Brooke that Lang can.

Gordon Thompson and Terry Lester- Mason Capwell-Santa Barbara. I think the departure of Lane Davies from SB left the show scratching their heads. Thompson and Lester both gave the role a valiant effort, but I do not think they could capture the traits of Mason that endured him to fans and to Nancy Grahn's Julia.

Christine Tucci- Amanda Cory Fowler- Another World. Amanda went from being blonde, to brunette(Tucci), to a red head and then back to a blonde during the course of her adult life on Another World. I remember when Ferguson debuted in the role and thought she was a perfect fit. I had a hard time getting into Tucci's Amanda Cory and remember being glad when she left the show. What a way to end the show, by having the original adult Amanda (Ferguson) end the show in the role.

Glynnis O'Connor- Margo Hughes-As The World Turns. Never liked her in the role....period. I tried and tried to be open minded, but couldn't do it. She was boring, frumpy and just blah in the role. I would've rather had the dentist scrape my teeth, than watch O'Connor.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • Members

first of all... i flove anyone who can make this many refrences to sandra ferguson!!

now... i agree about her being a good recast on GH. to me - she brought to it what KW did back in the day - heart and soul and made her real. KW this past time was trying soo hard to act it was near painful. it would had made me LOL if it wasnt so sad and had Kirsten Storms not knocked those scenes so far outa the ballpark they landed on a football field!

and CT was horrid in the role of amanda! i have not seen it all but from what i have seen its awful and i dont even want to picture anyone but SF as Amanda Corey (SF also rocked Sunset Beach as Jade!!)

however, i disagree with you about brooke on B&B. but that could be because im a huge SF fan, and i think KKL is horrid and have no idea how she has been the star of this show for as lonf as she has aside from the fact that her bad acting isnt just bad, its campy bad and that works for B&B. i also loved cat Hicklands short stint in the role

Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • Members

I totally forgot Charity Rahmer as Days' Belle. Probably the WORST actress to ever hit daytime.

And I must disagree with KA's Billie being bad. Need proof that she had the chops? Look up the scenes of Billie held prisoner in Rome being injected with heroin. Krista OWNED those scenes and no one can deny it.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • Members

Her personal life has nothing to do with her time on Days. She did a great job with what the writers gave her. They wanted Billie to become a total bitch for some reason, and she brought it to the table ten fold. That's an actor's job. To play the part as written (even if its badly).

Who she "bangs" is completely irrelevant, and how is her life a massive failure? Because she's not an A-list celebrity? :rolleyes:

Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • Members

i was referring to her HORRID acting ond ays as a fail. i give her props for her personal life. banging george cloney? horror movies? being hot as hell? yes yes and yes!

i actually loved what they did with billie as far as the writing goes. her being a vixen was great. but KA was awful. if she was on the show NOW with the talent she has NOPW it would be comp diff.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • Members

A couple come to mind....

GL

Signy Coleman as Annie Dutton on Guiding Light. Can I get an AMEN from anyone on this board? :lol:

Kit Paquin as Marina Cooper. That was a bad one. I think they fired her 3 weeks after being on the show.

Ann Hamilton as Melinda Sue Lewis. She shortly got the heave-ho too.

Nicole Forester as Cassie Layne Winslow. I shouldn't be dissing her because she had to fill in some large shoes after Laura Wright left role that she played for nearly 9 years. But she's pretty bad.

ATWT

I didn't watch ATWT during the time, but I do remember reading in Soap Opera Digest that fans of ATWT actually sent canned foods to the studio to "can" this particular actress . Drum roll please....

Susan Batten as Connor Walsh on As The World Turns.

DAYS

Charity Rahmer as Belle Brady. Enough said.

OLTL

Karen Witter as Tina Lords

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Archived

This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.

  • Recently Browsing   0 members

    • No registered users viewing this page.



  • Recent Posts

    • Kobe/Long had their own template and pretty much gutted the cast. As soon as contracts were up established characters were dropped. They needed to free the budget for the new characters. Going back to Ann,I wonder why the Dobsons renewed her contract around 78? After her initial story she became supporting and they didn't seem to want to pursue a romance with Mike. Maybe the feedback was that viewers blamed her indirectly for Leslie's death. If Mike hadn't taken on her case etc. Did she decide not to disrupt her son's life? Seems odd after everything she didn't claim him back. 1976 continues... Joe Werner is just not bouncing back after his recovery as he should, and Sarah, concerned about his sometimes morbid-seeming depression, consults Justin Marler. They agree that Joe is becoming a “cardiac cripple,” and know this kind of overcompensation for illness and overprecaution can not only be a permanently depressed condition but can actually cause a setback for him physically.  Marler releases Joe into Sarah’s care, but it’s soon apparent that just being out of the hospital hasn’t done anything to boost Joe’s spirits about his return to a normal existence. Marler finally lays it out to Joe—the choice has to be his. He can choose to lead a normal, productive life as a doctor and as a husband to the best wife he could have, or he can choose to become an invalid and live on the outside looking in for the rest of his days, sentencing Sarah to the same fate. Realizing the selfishness of what he’s doing to —Sarah as well as the narrowness of the confinement he’s set for himself, Joe begins to see his preoccupation with his illness as the self-pity it really is and decides he’s ready to return to the hospital for a one hour shift each day. Sarah is overjoyed by his turnabout, but full happiness is hers on the day she overhears Joe telling a fearful patient that the world is beautiful and worth any. effort to get back into it. Steve and Adam are thrilled to learn that Cedars has been the recipient of the Levy Grant for expansion of hospital property. But they have learned, as they report to Ed, that the land they were hoping to build the new research facility on, the land immediately adjacent to the hospital, has been purchased by Dr. Justin Marler. Both Adam and Steve feel that Justin is expanding a power base at Cedars and the land purchase is just one more block in Justin’s power play. When Ed asks Marler why he purchased this particular parcel of land, Marler explains that he bought it with the express intention of someday building his own offices and facilities convenient to the major facilities of Cedars. When the subject of the hospital’s needing the land arises, Marler meets with Adam, and they agree that he should realize a fair profit from his property and that an unbiased assessor should be engaged to evaluate the market value of the land so they can agree on a selling price. When Sarah comments on the fact that Marler is to realize a profit on the land, he bitterly replies that no matter what he’s done since coming to Cedars to prove that he has changed. since she last knew him, she refuses to see him as anything but what he was all those years ago. Sarah insists this isn’t true. But Marler then calls Adam for a meeting and informs him that the land is not for sale at any price. As Adam begins to grow alarmed, Marler continues that the site for the new building will be his personal donation to the hospital. As Adam expresses profuse thanks and appreciation, Marler wryly notes that the tax deductions he’ll realize on this contribution to a charitable institution will benefit himself almost as much as Cedars. When Steve Jackson learns that Marler is to be elected head of the research wing that will be built on his property, he expresses the conviction that this was the exact intention of the gift. Adam, however, assures Steve that the donation wasn’t a factor in the hospital  board’s decision, they were concerned only with Dr. Marler’s reputation as a doctor. | After lengthy consultations and meetings. with the hospital  staff, Ed assured by the head nurse that her nurses performed commendably despite the added pressure of the train wreck, presents his findings to the hospital review board. Steve arrives at two possible explanations for the facts. Either Grainger, more active than usual due to the previously delayed medication, reached for the writing pad and inadvertently disconnected the breathing tubes, or he was in a state of extreme upset because of the delayed medication and.in the excitement a surge of adrenalin within his system caused his brain aneurism to start hemorrhaging. " Upon learning that the review board has ruled out negligence in Grainger’s death, Ed tells Rita, who takes her first free breath in a long time. But Ed hasn’t thought to tell Rita that he’s been in touch with Grainger’s attorney, Mr. Schafer, who, knowing that a woman was at the base of Grainger’s investigation, is coming to Springfield to try to find out who the woman - was who walked out on Grainger when he collapsed —in the restaurant. Peggy, learning that Rita’s “forgetting” to deliver Holly’s message was instrumental in their divorce ‘being finalized, tells Ed that Holly wanted to reach him to stop the divorce. Immediately after, Peggy is torn by doubts, wondering if she did the right thing.She confides in Barbara, who then discusses the situation with Ed. He tells her he and Holly have discovered a new closeness now that they are building their separate lives. Barbara quickly contradicts him: Holly is not building a new life. Barbara gently cautions Ed, saying, “People change, feelings change, and what seems right now may not be right a year from now. No decision is irrevocable.” Ed agrees with this. Now that Ben has declared his love for her, Hope finds herself apprehensive, fearing that she might be making a mistake, as she did a few years ago, when she was sure she was in love with her college professor. Explaining that she doesn’t want to make another mistake, she asks Ben to be patient, and he agrees. When Mike expresses his disapproval of Ben’s overstated independence, his need to be beholden to no one, Hope quickly jumps to Ben’s defense, and Mike apologizes. But Ben, surprisingly, accepts Mike’s assessment as constructive criticism. Later Hope, examining her feelings and desires, tells Ben she does love him and wants to belong to him. Later that evening, after they’ve made love, Ben asks Hope to marry him.And, delighted, she replies that she will. At Hope’s instigation, Bert has a family dinner to which Ben is invited, and Hope announces their intention to marry over glasses of wine. Mike politely offers best wishes while Bert thrills the couple with her offer to' make a Christmas wedding for them. Bert later tells Mike he must accept this engagement with good spirits for Hope, and later, seeing the joy she’s feeling, he gives his daughter his approval. But Ben finds another problem on his very own doorstep: his brother Jerry, who announces he’s left home after several bad fights with their parents. He refuses to tell Ben what they were fighting about. As Ben is showering, Jerry borrows his car and goes out for an hour. The phone rings, but Ben can’t hear it. Shortly after, two uniformed officers visit Mike at home to tell him that his late wife’s car has been involved in a delicatessen robbery earlier in the evening. Since Ben bought Leslie’s car, Mike accompanies the officers to Ben’s apartment. Ben curtly informs the police that he had nothing to do with the robbery and makes it clear that he feels they wouldn’t be there if he didn’t have a record and that his exoneration doesn’t prevent his being hassled like any ex-con,as they tell him he has to go to the police station for questioning. Hope tells Ben she called him earlier, and when he replies that he must have been in the shower, she accepts his word unhesitatingly.Jerry finally returns to Ben’s place and under questioning from Ben admits that he robbed the store,explaining that he has debts. Ben is now in a quandary,as he feels he must protect his brother but doesn’t want to be unfair to Hope. He tries to ease the situation by withdrawing $185 from the joint checking account he opened with Hope and repaying the delicatessen owner. He then sends Jerry out of town to stay with a friend. His relief at having solved the problem is short-lived, however, when Mike informs him that, despite the reparations, the robbery was a felony and the police will continue to investigate. Hope is badly upset to learn while making a deposit that Ben withdrew’a sum which Mike tells her is equal to the amount stolen. This shakes her belief that he _was really home when she called, and she goes to him, asking for an answer to put her mind at rest. Ben can’t betray Jerry and asks Hope to trust him, promising she will have the whole story eventually. But Hope can’t accept this; she needs complete honesty and openness in her relationship and without it cannot goon. She painfully tells her father that the wedding is off despite her love for Ben, and tells Bert to stop preparations. Mike goes to Ben, reminding him that half the money in the account is Hope’s and she has the right to an answer. But Ben won’t say any more and refuses Mike’s offer to represent him legally, again stating that he doesn’t need a lawyer, because he’s done nothing wrong.     
    • And not since. I recall it was quite small for a house that size. And I don't know why you would walk down a narrow corridor to get to the main living area. I hate when the sets on soaps don't have a logical layout! As for Andre his clothing is fashion forward and suitable for his character.He ain't gonna wear no blazer!
    • The last I remember seeing Ben, he was divorcing Amanda. He came to tell Evie that he still loved her, but was leaving town so that Amanda wouldn't blame Evie for his divorcing her. I'm not exactly sure when, but Evie doesn't leave town until sometime after Nola and Quint's engagement ball. I'm not sure if she leaves before or after Justin leaves in Sept(?) of '83. I grew to like Helena when she became friends with Vanessa, once she's edging her way out of Quint's life.
    • Please register in order to view this content

    • Please register in order to view this content

       
    • It sure was!  With respect, how does that make sense?  These men are young, I don't see that. 
    • I hope this played better than it sounds, because I'm imagining two separate scenes (the attack by Arnie, and later Charles getting shot). In my mind, it should have been a fluid single sequence. I wonder if or how often "bastard" was uttered in this scene. Fare thee well, Christopher Reeve. I've said it before, but pop culture's gain was daytime's definite loss. Imagine seeing HIM day after day, year after year, decade after decade, conceivably until they stopped producing soaps in NYC.   Well, that answers my "bastard" question. Good lord, the roads of Rosehill are packed with high-strung drivers and/or pedestrians. More sequences that I hope played better than they sound.

      Please register in order to view this content

    • I think Ben had already left while under Marland and only returned briefly to reconcile with Eve. The whole thing confuses me as I thought for a long time that Eve left the show to go be with him and that was when they reconciled, but it seems like he returned, they got back together, then he left and maybe they were still together until she left to join him? I have no idea.  It does seem like the interim writers were using some characters like Justin and Helena who were quickly dumped under Kobe/Long, which is a shame. Helena is one of those characters who likely always had a shelf life but Rose Alaio was such a vibrant screen presence, if Kobe/Long had just been patient, she likely would have fit in well in the Reva era.
    • Also, the lawsuit story was not the right story to bring Naomi and Bill into a court battle since those types of lawsuits are usually resolved via settlements.
    • I know that Sara did eventually become Carrie's therapist, but I was curious if the show had her make comments regarding Carrie's stunts of making it seem as though Justin was cheating on Jackie.  Given that Justin cheated on Sara with both Jackie and Brandy, I wondered if it was wise of her to counsel Carrie given the conflict of interest involved. @DRW50I think once Adam/Sara end up married.. Marland didn't see any reason to explore Sara's personal life after the actor playing Adam was released.  I know that Sara lasts until at least Christmas 1982 on the show.. but I don't think she ended up staying on for very long into 1983. The period between Marland quitting and Pam Long starting was the perfect time to clean house on characters that had outgrown their usefulness  (i.e. Ben, Evie, Sara, Jennifer, Morgan).. and tying up stories started by Marland that were too complex (Mona Enright, Mark/Jennifer/Amanda triangle).
×
×
  • Create New...

Important Information

By using this site, you agree to our Terms of Use and Privacy Policy