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Okay why is hillary not being able to use the coffee machine in a convient store news? Was it a slow news day or what? Is it just me or does the media continously try to make hillary look stupid? An I said this months ago but why is every hillary picture so crazy looking? :lol: I truly believe the male dominated media is being sexist towards her.imo I'm not just talking about right now but since the beginning of this year's campaigning.

Its funny how I was talking about faux news yesterday and they are actually treating hillary better than all the news networks put together, but we all know what thats about. :rolleyes: My jaw is literally dropping watching bill O' interview with hillary and he's actually letting her answer questions and not getting too defensive. :lol::o:o:o

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Well bush has a 71% dissaproval rating yet a certain news channel that shall remain nameless keeps saying his presidency wasn't all that bad. But I guess it wouldn't seem that bad to them considering this is the same group that is making billions off people paying high gas prices, yeah, the economy is great for them so why wouldn't they approve of bush. :angry::rolleyes: If it wasn't for the lower and middle class they would be poor so I really don't understand why they don't want to share the wealth, which is why I will never be a republican, they want to keep the less fortuanate down so they can keep getting richer and richer.

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Im so over these primary elections. I wish it would end already. Its a shame that Hillary and Barack are fighting bc they have the same goals; just different means of getting there. They should be working together, not against each other and ultimately what they are doing is the Republicans dirty work. When it comes time for either of them to go up against McCain, his camp has months worth of negative press and buzz against them that he can use and Hillary and Obama are the ones that laid it all out there. Both are making the other look negative and the Republicans are loving it as they couldnt ask for anything better

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(AP) -- Conservative Christian leaders who believe the word "evangelical" has lost its religious meaning plan to release a starkly self-critical document saying the movement has become too political and has diminished the Gospel through its approach to the culture wars.

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The declaration encourages Christians to uphold traditional marriage, as in this Massachusetts protest.

The statement, called "An Evangelical Manifesto," condemns Christians on the right and left for using faith to express political views without regard to the truth of the Bible, according to a draft of the document obtained Friday by The Associated Press.

"That way faith loses its independence, Christians become 'useful idiots' for one political party or another, and the Christian faith becomes an ideology," according to the draft.

The declaration, scheduled to be released Wednesday in Washington, encourages Christians to be politically engaged and uphold teachings such as traditional marriage. But the drafters say evangelicals have often expressed "truth without love," helping create a backlash against religion during a "generation of culture warring."

"All too often we have attacked the evils and injustices of others," the statement says, "while we have condoned our own sins." It argues, "we must reform our own behavior."

The document is the latest chapter in the debate among conservative Christians about their role in public life. Most veteran leaders believe the focus should remain on abortion and marriage, while other evangelicals -- especially in the younger generation -- are pushing for a broader agenda. The manifesto sides with those seeking a wide-range of concerns beyond "single-issue politics."

Among the signers of the manifesto are Os Guiness, a well-known evangelical author and speaker, and Richard Mouw, president of Fuller Theological Seminary, a leading evangelical school in Pasadena, California. Organizers declined to comment until the final document is released.

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They say more than 80 evangelicals have signed the statement, although only a few names have been released. A. Larry Ross, spokesman for the authors, said the theologians and Christian leaders involved are seeking to "go back to the root theological meaning of the term evangelical."

Some champions of traditional culture war issues are not among the supporters.

Richard Land, head of the public policy arm for the Southern Baptist Convention, said through a spokeswoman that he has not seen the document and was not asked to sign it.

James Dobson, the influential founder of Focus on the Family, a Christian group in Colorado Springs, Colorado, did not sign the document, said Gary Schneeberger, a Dobson spokesman. Schneeberger would not say whether Dobson had read the manifesto or had been asked to sign on.

Phil Burress, an Ohio activist who networks with national evangelical leaders, said that if high-profile evangelical leaders such as Dobson and Land don't support the document, "it's like throwing a pebble in the ocean" and will carry no weight.

But the drafters hope they can start a movement among evangelicals to reflect and act on the document. "We must find a new understanding of our place in public life," the drafters wrote. E-mail to a friend E-mail to a friend

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May 3, 2008, 10:18PM

Some blacks may stay home if Obama not on ballot

More becoming disenchanted with the Clintons after 'Judas' comment

Blacks have been the Democratic Party's most reliable bloc, giving about 90 percent of their votes to former Vice President Al Gore and Sen. John Kerry, D-Mass., in the last two presidential elections.

In a close election this year, a black exodus from the voting booth could be costly to Democrats, particularly in the South, where blacks are a large proportion of the electorate.

INDIANAPOLIS — Many black voters are making it very clear: They're concerned that Sen. Barack Obama is going to lose the Democratic presidential nomination that they see as rightfully his, and if that happens, a lot of them may stay home in November.

"It would hurt me not to vote," said Charles Clark, an Indianapolis retiree. He's thinking about leaving the presidential box on his ballot blank this fall if Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton is the Democrats' nominee.

"There was a heck of a push made so blacks could vote. I know that," he said. "But it would also be very unfair if they pushed Barack Obama to the side."

Michelle Moore, an Indianapolis housewife, is less gentle: "Hillary Clinton would not even still be in the race if Obama was a white man."

Her tough tone was common last week in this city's black community.

Why, people asked, is the Illinois senator's relationship with the Rev. Jeremiah Wright being judged so harshly? Why won't Democratic Party officials acknowledge that Obama's in the lead and unite around him?

If Obama isn't the nominee, "there would be a significant number of African-Americans who would stay home.

They're not voting for (presumptive Republican nominee) John McCain," predicted David Bositis, a senior analyst at the Joint Center for Political and Economic Studies, which researches black voting trends.

'Old South politics'

Todd Shaw, a University of South Carolina political science professor, agreed, citing a groundswell of black disenchantment with both Bill and Hillary Clinton.

They're particularly annoyed by Bill Clinton's performance during the South Carolina primary and by Clinton supporter James Carville's description of New Mexico Gov. Bill Richardson, a Latino, as "Judas" for endorsing Obama over Hillary Clinton.

"The comment plays very badly with African-Americans and Latinos," Shaw said. "They remind them of 'Look what we've done for you; you should stay in line.'

That doesn't sit well with voters of color. They view it as Northern machine politics or Old South boss politics."

Hunter Bacot, an associate professor of political science at Elon University in North Carolina, saw another piece of political history haunting black Obama backers.

"There's a sentiment among blacks that they've been taken for granted by the Democratic Party," Bacot said. "If Obama loses, it's as though their candidate's victory was overturned."

Hitting the ceiling

Several blacks in Indiana, which holds a crucial Democratic primary on Tuesday, said they could be seeing yet another effort by the white establishment to crush any black who's earned a powerful position.

"Here we go again," said Eddie Pryor, an Indianapolis retiree.

"It's like there's a ceiling for us," added Bangen Finley, an Indianapolis machinist.

But Jerry Mondesire, the president of the Philadelphia chapter of the NAACP and publisher of The Philadelphia Sunday Sun, a black weekly newspaper, said it's foolish for any Democrat to refuse to vote if his or her candidate isn't the nominee.

"It's a stupid way for Obama supporters to think and a stupid way for Hillary Clinton supporters to think," said Mondesire, a pledged Clinton delegate.

"It's a selfish and destructive way to think. I can't think of what the Supreme Court would look like if McCain were elected. Roe v. Wade could be diminished, and Brown v. Board of Education could be impacted."

Some black voters in Indiana acknowledge that they might come around even if Clinton wins.

"I am offended by Hillary Clinton. What's going on now is unwarranted," said Shirley Graham, an Indianapolis auto company worker. But she will vote Democratic in the fall.

"I am a Christian. I can't allow myself to have lingering bitterness," she said.

Michelle Moore, however, has made up her mind: Clinton is out. "Senator Obama is just not being treated fairly," she insisted. "You would think everything that Reverend Wright says is coming right from Obama's mouth."

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From CBS News:

Clinton Reminds Viewers: Journalist Was Once on Her Side

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From CBS News' Fernando Suarez:

INDIANAPOLIS -- Hillary Clinton appeared on ABC’s "This Week with George Stephanopoulos" this morning in an interview filled with awkward moments and strange interactions between the two former colleagues (Stephanopoulos worked under President Bill Clinton for 4 years.)

The interview was billed as a “town hall” where Indiana voters would get a chance to ask Clinton questions. Minutes into the interview, Clinton decided to ditch her chair, preferring to stand and address the audience. What ensued was an awkward interaction between Clinton and Stephanopoulos when the ABC host was forced to ask a few questions from his chair while Clinton loomed over him. (In fairness to Stephanopoulos, oftentimes in seated interview settings the journalist and/or the guest have their microphone cord taped to the chair, restricting one's movement.)

Stephanopoulos tried to recover by standing alongside Clinton, but was forced to stand in a strange position as he remained tied to his chair.

After the first commercial break, the two were seated again, but within seconds Clinton decided she had had enough, forcing Stephanopoulos to stand, again.

The interview took another unpleasant turn when Stephanopoulos tried to pin down Clinton over her position on NAFTA, a trade program introduced by her husband during his presidency. Clinton has come out against the plan saying it was not good for American workers. Stephanopoulos said, “The Clinton administration didn’t do enough to address the downside of globalization and therefore failed the workers in Indiana and the workers of the West?"

Clinton clearly took offense to the tone of the question and while answering, decided to take a jab at the host.

"Well I believe, George, in the 1990s we had a booming economy that created nearly 23 million new jobs, more people were lifted out of poverty in any time in our near history. It was an economy that worked for everyone, not just the rich, the wealthy and the well connected, but there were underlying issues that we didn't understan fully. Now, you remember this, because George did work in that '92 campaign - George and I actually were against NAFTA - I'm talking about him in his previous life, before he was an objective journalist,” Clinton said to a visibly annoyed Stephanopoulos.

Some have speculated that Clinton prefers appearing on Stephanopoulos’ show because she can often turn a question around to include him as a former staffer for her husband.

Just four days before the Iowa Caucuses in late December Clinton appeared on "This Week" and implemented a similar strategy. When Stephanopoulos asked Clinton what qualified her to be commander-in-chief when reports indicated that she had never sat in on a national security meeting taking place at the White House Clinton responded, “You know, I can imagine what the stories would have been had I attended a National Security Council meeting. You were there. I think you can vouch for that.”

The remainder of the program consisted of a variety of quesitons on gas prices, foreign poliy and the economy. There were also a group of North Carolina voters being piped in via satelite who were also able to ask questions of Clinton.

Clinton’s interview on "This Week," comes as her opponent Barack Obama appeared on NBC’s "Meet the Press" this morning.

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Sunday Talk: Obama Is Grilled on Wright

Nick Timiraos reports from Indianapolis on the presidential race:

Barack Obama defended the way in which he has distanced himself from former pastor Rev. Jeremiah Wright Jr. during an hourlong grilling before Tim Russert on Meet the Press on Sunday.

The Illinois senator was pressed to explain why he hadn’t done more to distance himself from Wright before his angry denunciation of the pastor’s attempt to defend himself earlier this week. Why hadn’t he made a cleaner break with Wright in March, Russert inquired, when Obama initially condemned Wright’s remarks but said he could not disassociate himself from his pastor.

Sunday TalkRussert also asked Obama why he had even waited that long because he had acknowledged Wright posed a problem for his campaign when he uninvited his pastor from delivering the invocation at his presidential announcement rally.

Obama said that Wright’s decision to dig in and defend his controversial remarks on race and America during his publicity tour earlier this week, which offered the Chicago cleric the chance to apologize for those same remarks, had been the last straw. Pressed to name what he had learned the the experience, Obama replied: “When you’re in national politics, it’s always good to pull the Band-Aid off quick.”

Obama also defended himself against charges that he might be open to attacks on his judgment for attending the church and appearing to stand by his pastor at first. “My commitment is to the church, not to the pastor,” he said. “I think that’s shared by millions of people who are going to church this morning.”

Russert wanted to know how Obama would prevent himself by being Swift-boated, where political opponents could raise questions about his patriotism for issues ranging from the Wright relationship to Obama’s rare wearing of a flag pin. Obama said he wouldn’t challenge his opponents’ patriotism and that he wouldn’t let people question his, pointing to his biography once again as an example that America was a great source of good for the world.

“This country defines for me what’s possible for — not just for me but so many people — who see this country as a beacon of good,” he said.

The conversation stayed on Wright for the first 15 minutes of the program, before moving onto the signature issue of the campaign in Indiana and North Carolina: gas prices. Obama has opposed a gas-tax holiday and criticized his opponents for pandering on the measure. The former state senator defended a 2000 vote to ease the state gas tax. “I voted for it,” he said. “Then six months later we took a look and consumers had not benefited at all. I learned from a mistake.”

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