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So I voted and I have a question about voting machines.

The ones we use (and have used for at least 2 years) have this roll of paper, kind of like receipt paper, that prints your picks on it as you pick them. There's a transparent panel that you can see through so that you see who's name is on the paper. The paper is then rolled up like how receipt paper is. And they have to change the rolls when they get full. So, wouldn't that be a paper trail? Do all machines not do this? And if not, why aren't states getting these have this paper in them?

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As someone who's suffered through everything the Buckeye State could dish out here's my understanding:

Yes those machines provide a "paper trail." You are supposed to compare your choices with the "receipt" before you leave the polling place but once you leave you have no recourse because it's not like you get to take the paper with you.

As someone who makes her living working on computers all I can say is I was thrilled to have a PAPER ballot this year.

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And we now know what the final kitchen sink will be:

Obama says he didn't know aunt's illegal status

By NEDRA PICKLER – 1 hour ago

CHICAGO (AP) — Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama says he didn't know that one of his relatives was living in the United States illegally and believes the appropriate laws should be followed.

The Associated Press found that Obama's aunt had been instructed to leave the country four years ago by an immigration judge who rejected her request for asylum from her native Kenya. The woman, Zeituni Onyango (zay-TUHN on-YANG-oh), is living in public housing in Boston and is the half-sister of Obama's late father.

A statement given to the AP by Obama's campaign Saturday says, "Senator Obama has no knowledge of her status but obviously believes that any and all appropriate laws be followed."

THIS IS A BREAKING NEWS UPDATE. Check back soon for further information. AP's earlier story is below.

WASHINGTON (AP) — Barack Obama's aunt, a Kenyan woman who has been quietly living in public housing in Boston, is in the United States illegally after an immigration judge rejected her request for asylum four years ago, The Associated Press has learned.

Zeituni Onyango (zay-TUHN on-YANG-oh), referred to as "Aunti Zeituni" in the Democratic presidential candidate's memoir, was instructed to leave the United States by a U.S. immigration judge who denied her asylum request, a person familiar with the matter told the AP late Friday. This person spoke on condition of anonymity because no one was authorized to discuss Onyango's case.

Onyango, 56, is Obama's late father's half-sister, the Obama campaign has confirmed. She is not a relative whom Obama, 47, has discussed in campaign appearances and, unlike Obama's father and his maternal grandmother, is not someone who has been part of the public discussion about his personal life.

The Obama campaign declined to comment late Friday night.

Information about the deportation case was disclosed and confirmed by two separate sources, one a federal law enforcement official. The information they made available is known to officials in the federal government, but the AP could not establish whether anyone at a political level in the Bush administration or in the McCain campaign had been involved in its release.

Onyango's refusal to leave the country would represent an administrative, noncriminal violation of immigration law, meaning such cases are handled outside the criminal court system. Estimates vary, but many experts believe there are more than 10 million such immigrants in the U.S.

According to Federal Election Commission documents filed by the Obama campaign, Onyango has contributed $260 to Obama over a period of time. Under federal election law, only U.S. citizens or green-card holders are legally permitted to give money to campaigns. Onyango, who listed her employer as the Boston Housing Authority, gave in small increments to the Obama campaign. Her latest contribution was $5 on Sept. 19.

The AP could not immediately reach Onyango for comment. When a reporter went to her home Friday night, no one answered the door. A neighbor said she was often not home on the weekend. Onyango did not immediately return telephone and written messages left at her home. It was unclear why her request for asylum was rejected in 2004.

A spokeswoman for U.S. Immigrations and Customs Enforcement, Kelly Nantel, said the government does not comment on an individual's citizenship status or immigration case.

Onyango's case — coming to light just days before the presidential election — led to an unusual nationwide directive within Immigrations and Customs Enforcement requiring that any deportations before Tuesday's election be approved at least at the level of the agency's regional directors, the U.S. law enforcement official told the AP.

The unusual directive suggests that the administration is sensitive to the political implications of Onyango's case coming to light so close to the election.

The East African nation has been fractured in violence in recent years, including a period of two months of bloodshed after December 2007 that killed 1,500 people.

Boston Mayor Thomas Menino said Saturday that he had no idea how Onyango might have qualified for public housing with a standing deportation order. He said he's not involved in the operations of the agency, even though he appoints the head, because it runs mainly on federal and state dollars.

William McGonagle, deputy director of the Boston Housing Authority, said when contacted: "I know nothing about it and I've got no comment."

Spagat reported from New York. Associated Press writers Rodrique Ngowi and Jay Lindsay in Boston contributed to this report.

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I really hope this stuff about Obama's aunt doesn't turn out to be a big deal.

I mean seriously considering the state of the economy and America as a whole are we really gonna elect John McCain because Barack Obama happens to have an aunt who may be living here illlegally.

I'll be severely depressed if that turns out to be the case...

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Were you a Clinton supporter in the primaries?

About the illegal aunt thing.... :rolleyes:

That's all I will say about that. Anyone who will change their vote based off of something as ridiculous as that needs to hand over their voting rights. I am sorry. can't we keep the talk to the issues? That goes for both campaigns.

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I don't think so.....unless she's a Muslim terrorist or a socialist or communist then her story isn't useful to McCain. I don't think they want to go after an old woman who tried to get political asylum and didn't so stayed in the country. Then again I live in California so I don't even see this as news... :lol:

The local news anchor that reported this on last night's news seemed uncomfortable relaying it. Obama doesn't have much of a relationship with his father's family since he didn't have a relationship with his father.

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So McCain appeared on SNL with Tina Fey as Sarah Palin. It was pretty funny. They were appearing on a home shopping channel saying it was all they could afford :lol:

Poor McCain. He genuinely seems like a decent man who cares deeply for his country.... I kind of actually feel a bit sorry for him. Oh well.

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