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By victorlord75 · Posted
I think one mistake that later writers made with Gail was to make her either Lee's angelic wife or the therapist that was an easy dupe for evil characters that required treatment. Under Marland, there was a series of scenes where Tracy goaded Lee to drink, Jessie witnessed it and spilled the beans about what she saw to Gail. Gail, then, in turn, ripped Tracy a new one. I wish that Gail and Tracy scene still existed on YouTube. It was glorious not only to see evil Tracy be put in her place, but to see some real fire from Gail. -
I won't be. We all know that the shelf life of a villainess isn't very long. Trisha Mann-Grant is the breakout star of BtG and she is destined for bigger and better things. -
I feel CBS/P&G got really shaken by 1978-1982 ABC huge rise and domination, thus the changes to the shows. Considering Capitol showed no growth, I wonder if CBS ever regretting cancelling Search for Tomorrow. From the 1980s Ratings thread, Capitol pretty much inherited Search for Tomorrow audience but Capitol ratings were impacted when One Life to Live rebounded in 1985 with Andrea Evans return. Remember Capitol was head-to-head with the second half of One Life to Live. Even if CBS kept Search for Tomorrow, I think it would've ended as soon as Bill Bell had a second show ready. Funny thing is Search for Tomorrow NBC run was only three months shorter that Capitol run.
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This was Bill's most complicated moment. The pecs stole the show and what was left from Brooke's dignity.Please register in order to view this content
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You are going to be so proud of me because I agree. I kept thinking why is Sonny/Mo getting all the dialogue and gate keeping everyone's feelings when there are 3 other capable actors in these scenes? Ned should have told Sonny to shut up lol. I am fine with Sonny getting a reaction, but he got 90% of the airtime for his reaction. I don't even think it's mental health that's keeping his job. MB wouldn't get this much time on screen if it was a pity thing. Frank is too afraid to cut Sonny because of fan reaction. I know there aren't any Sonny fans here, but I do think there are Sonny fans out there (besides me) lol. -
By VelekaCarruthers · Posted
I've been looking at the ratings during and after each head writer switch. The ratings during Marcus' tenure (Oct 74 to April 75) were very good but at first not quite as high a Upton's (who was there six months prior. Marcus left when Mary Hartman was picked up as she was a creator and head writer). I've watched Marcus' interviews on Youtube; she discusses most of the soaps she worked on. She liked the money; she's not all warm and fuzzy about writing for them. She loved nighttime genres that gave her writing more flexibility than soapy dramas. But she was good at writing soaps. By April 75, SFT was no.2 in the ratings behind ATWT. O'Shea was next (lasted 18 months) and in May 75, SFT high No. 1. When O'Shea left the show as still in the top five. O'Shea moved to OLTL in 77? but not as head writer so not sure why she left SFT. The Corringtons were the safest bet to keep long term. They needed to change direction by 1980 as the ratings were dropping but still very solid 6s/low 20s share). They should have expanded the show to an hour and given the Corringtons some direction and more budget. One has to wonder about two people who were with the show for a long time: Mary Ellis Bunim was promoted to EP when she was about 28, amazingly and a woman! She as talented but she went through at 11 head writer changes if she started in 1974. Here's her list of writers: Theodore Apstein (January 1974 – May 1974) 5 mo Gabrielle Upton (May 1974 – November 1974) 6 mo Ann Marcus (October 1974 - April 1975) 6 mo Peggy O’Shea (April 1975 – November 1976) 18 mo Irving Elman (with James Lipton) (November 1976 – Summer 1977) 9 mo Robert J. Shaw with Charles/Patti Dizenzo (August 1977 - Spring 78) 6-9 mo? Henry Slesar (Spring 78 to August 78) 3-4 mo? Corringtons (August 1978 to May 1980) 1 yr/9mo Linda Grover/John Porterfield (May 1980 to mid July 1980) 3 mo. Gabrielle Upton (July 1980 to at least through March or April) Harding Lemay April to June 81 writers' strike Don Chastain (Summer 1981 writers' strike - replaced by Ellis/Hunt Dec 81 or Jan 82) Then Fred Bartholemew comes in when Bunim goes to ATWT (Oct 81?) and he brings in Ellis Hunt for the NBC switchover, they lasted 11 months. Mary Stuart is the other mystery to me: how was she to work with? Did she instigate many of the writer firings? Was she not involved at all. No other P&G show went through this kind of frenetic change. (The Doctors might be a close second but wasn't on as long and not P&G). -
I'm getting the sense that something happened between Anita and Dante Green that wasn’t exactly copacetic, to say the least. I wonder — did he promise her fame and fortune as a solo artist, and then attack her when she rebuffed his advances? I hope it’s not a long-lost child plot lurking out there for her. Maybe she left behind an sibling in poverty or something instead, back in Cabrini-Green/Chicago. It does seem like neither Tracy nor Sharon’s solo careers turned out the way they dreamed — both ended up singing at City Wineries. I still think Leslie is connected to the Duprees — maybe her mother is Sharon, and she's going after the Duprees because she believes she could’ve had their lifestyle if things had gone differently for her mom. She does have ties to Chicago. That said, I hope this is the last disguise from her toolbox for a while — I’d hate for that to get played out. But I do wonder if she’s going to use Nicole 2.0 to frame Nicole for something down the line? I’m all for giving Shanice more time on canvas, and I wouldn’t hate it if she and Andre became an item — someone who doesn’t mind being public, unlike Dani. Or I can see Doug finally getting fed up with their arrangement and turning to the nurse for some “relief.” Vanessa was, in a way, telling herself off in those scenes with Ted about his cheating. And I have to say, Keith Robinson’s Ted brings a broader range of emotion than Maurice Johnson’s did — though I think Ted 2.0 is benefitting from better writing than OG Ted, whose arc relied more on MJ’s charisma and physical presence. That said, as someone else pointed out, Keith looks like he’s drowning in the clothes they’ve got him in. Hopefully, they’ve got some better-fitted attire lined up now. -
They are just right there in your face. It's hard to not see Ciara's boobs at all times. And simmer down camera man, this is a family show!! The high school stuff makes it weird. Physically the actors all look fine together. It just makes me think Doug needs to find friends his own age. With Ari at least Doug was under the impression she was over 21. I liked JJ and Eve too lol!
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By Contessa Donatella · Posted
Specifically that's Kat & she is, there's no other way to say it except like pulling off a band-aid. She's Chad's "#1 fan" IOW, basically, kinda sorta she's an albatross around Chad's neck. Kat can turn any conversation into a discussion of Chad & what he ate for breakfast or the most minute of minute things about Chad Duell's life & times. We hope she's not dangerous. We hope she's just boring. That Chad is not back has lit a fire under her. She's upped her number of posts, which all relate in some way to Chad. Now you know what there is to know about as I said Chad Duell's #1 fan. -
The Duh-prees - Count me in as someone who cannot stand Kat’s fashion. No one walks around town dressed like that. And those wigs? Completely immovable. We have incredible wig technology these days—can’t the show find something better? - Vernon’s sermons are total FF material. - It looks like they’re setting up a past drinking habit for Anita (with all the “drowning” references), and maybe even a rape/child plot? Also—remember when Dani was an alcoholic? Lol. Ted / Nicole / Leslie - Some people are projecting way too much onto OG Ted. Sure, he had screen presence, but his line delivery was pure caricature. He wasn’t menacing or threatening—he was a joke. NuTed may be meek, a bit one-note, and smaller in stature, but his confrontation with Leslie on Friday worked. Also, let’s be real—Bill’s not scary either. Total softie. Couldn’t scare a fly. - The ATWT reference was cute, but wasn’t the Duncan storyline from the ‘80s? Are we supposed to believe Nicole was already practicing back then? Since she said it was her patients who watched… like others pointed out, God forbid she watched herself! - Also: I stand corrected on Leslie. I think she’s starting to make more sense as a character. She’s fearless and provocative—that’s what drives her. I actually loved her mirror scene where Nicole 2.0 made her debut. The non-Dupree characters - You guys were a bit dramatic about Monday’s show. It just had too many unlikeable storylines crammed into one. That’s all. Also, I stand by what I said about Derek and Ashley—their storyline is totally rom-com coded, and I’m into it. - I’ve developed a soft spot for Doug!!Please register in order to view this content
And I thought that Vanessa ripping into Ted had a subtle layer of self-reprimand to it - I officially can’t stand André. I don’t buy him as a playboy at all. Same goes for Pamela with her transatlantic accent. It’s such a shame that this is the first character CML had to create… and this is what we got?
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