Don't think she's her twin - her older sister. I think Leven is doing a great job - but sometimes that high Lily voice comes out - as Ava, she needs to deepen her voice a little. She'll get better - but so far so good IMO.

OMH, did you SEE that laptop that Lily used? That is so NOT the kind of laptop a girl like Lily, who is from a wealthy home, would have.

Sorry, AMC! You dropped the ballBIG time on that one! That laptop screen was probably 10 inches small. Lily would NEVER use a screen so small! Unless there's something about smaller screens and autism patients that I don't know about...

Oh and I'm not saying that Ava will NEVER end up having sex or be in a relationship/love - BUT I don't think we'll see Ava having sex as a prostitute or anytime soon.

I really don't think the writers were sitting down and thinking "Hmmm, we really need Leven to do sex scenes, but since Lily really can't right now, let's create this older sister so we can get Leven NAKED!" -- NO WAY. Give them a little more credit than that - PLEASE.

alwaysAMC, I disagree, to an extent.

After learning that Leven is a party girl (for shame ), I think Leven ASKED the producers to create this character that actually "has fun" and "has sex" -- it was her bargaining chip so she wouldn't quit the show. Lily, after all, is rather boring. She's cute and Leven does a great job with her... but she's boring. She's not the kind of character that would make moviemakers take notice of the young starlet.

Let's face it: they love the scandalous situations in Hollywood. And sex scenes are a MUST.

Ohhhhh, this has Leven written ALL over it.

Aaaand that's my conspiracy theory for today.

What I am saying is a 16 year old has no business doing a love scene or even kissing a grown ass man! It's kind of sick. Brandon Buddy who plays Cole on OLTL is 21 and Kristen who plays star is 15. That's not cool. Jeff Branson nor Aiden Turner should be a romantic interest for this 16 year old.

Thanks. I'm glad I'm not the only person who feels this way.

Aiden Turner, how COULD you!!!

Anyway, I doubt you'll get your wish for Lily/Ava scenes -- remember they're played by the same person. Not gonna happen.

Being a soap fan, you obviously must know that they do split screens when they want the characters in the same scene. They did one with Adam & Stuart just last week.

Edited April 3, 200718 yr by Pine Charles

JSF - I usually enjoy your outlandish and dramatic posts - but today I was just annoyed. Sorry! lol

First, if you read the interview with Leven regarding this storyline - you'll realize that she had NO idea she would be playing a dual role. She said she was brought into JHC's office and had no idea what was going on - and they asked if she could pull it off (playing dual roles) and she said yes - she was just excited about working again (bc she wasn't being used for months).

Since you are a fan of Passions, you should obviously be ok with unrealistic drama. Having young HOMELESS teens trying to survive in the big city is completely realistic, so the fact that Ava kissed Aiden should not be blown up into this huge dramatic "OMG HOW COULD LEVEN DO THAT" thing.

You do realize that David Canary plays both Adam and Stuart. Finola Hughes played both Alex and Anna Devane. MEK played both Tad Martin and Ted Orsini. I could go on and on - but all these characters have had scenes together....so Lily and Ava most definitely will have scenes together - and I can't wait to see how they are done and how dynamic and different the two characters will be when put together.

Finally - Amanda - yes, when she was first came back to AMC in 2005 - she was a major tramp. Ever since being run over by a drunk JR and having to deal with her mom in early 2006 - Amanda has done a complete 180 and she isn't a tramp anymore. Her and Jonathan had an innocent little fling - THAT IS IT. Just because she slept with Jonathan, doesn't make her a slut. She was getting over her mother's mass murdering and he was getting over his relationship with Lily - they were there for each other and it wasn't just trampy sex.

Personally I think this whole thing is being blown out of proportion.

JSF you definitely are somewhat of a hypocrite. Amanda is a tramp because she was bed buddies with Jonathan, however, Babe and her busy bed is love to you? I know it probably was in good fun but I mean come on

Amanda isn't near the whore Babe is, but yet BABE IS LOVE!

Being a soap fan, you obviously must know that they do split screens when they want the characters in the same scene. They did one with Adam & Stuart just last week.

Oh, I know. But that works for a seasoned pro like David Canary. I don't know if the same tricks work for more newbie performers.

JSF - I usually enjoy your outlandish and dramatic posts - but today I was just annoyed. Sorry! lol

First, if you read the interview with Leven regarding this storyline - you'll realize that she had NO idea she would be playing a dual role. She said she was brought into JHC's office and had no idea what was going on - and they asked if she could pull it off (playing dual roles) and she said yes - she was just excited about working again (bc she wasn't being used for months).

Since you are a fan of Passions, you should obviously be ok with unrealistic drama. Having young HOMELESS teens trying to survive in the big city is completely realistic, so the fact that Ava kissed Aiden should not be blown up into this huge dramatic "OMG HOW COULD LEVEN DO THAT" thing.

You do realize that David Canary plays both Adam and Stuart. Finola Hughes played both Alex and Anna Devane. MEK played both Tad Martin and Ted Orsini. I could go on and on - but all these characters have had scenes together....so Lily and Ava most definitely will have scenes together - and I can't wait to see how they are done and how dynamic and different the two characters will be when put together.

Finally - Amanda - yes, when she was first came back to AMC in 2005 - she was a major tramp. Ever since being run over by a drunk JR and having to deal with her mom in early 2006 - Amanda has done a complete 180 and she isn't a tramp anymore. Her and Jonathan had an innocent little fling - THAT IS IT. Just because she slept with Jonathan, doesn't make her a slut. She was getting over her mother's mass murdering and he was getting over his relationship with Lily - they were there for each other and it wasn't just trampy sex.

Again, I know about split screens. I'm not stupid, lol. Sorry if it sounded that way. I just don't know if more of a newbie performer (and I know, she's been with the show for a couple of years or whatever) could pull off SUCH A MONUMENTAL task of dual role playing. In the same scene no less! She's just 16. We'll see.

Oh, I know. But that works for a seasoned pro like David Canary. I don't know if the same tricks work for more newbie performers.

This makes no sense? Its all with the camera angles????

Personally I think this whole thing is being blown out of proportion.

JSF you definitely are somewhat of a hypocrite. Amanda is a tramp because she was bed buddies with Jonathan, however, Babe and her busy bed is love to you? I know it probably was in good fun but I mean come on

Amanda isn't near the whore Babe is, but yet BABE IS LOVE!

I hate to admit it but yes, I am a hypocrite! I truly disrespect Amanda and love Babe and Krystal, despite their less-than-saintly ways.

This thread has gone to hell in a handbasket.

LMAO, Lily and Ava will have tons of scenes together, and they'll be as flawless as the Adam and Stuart scenes always are. Gees. Leven's actual age doesn't bother me. It's more Ava on the whole and the fact that they're more then likely just doing this to sex up Leven and keep Lily. I have no doubt Leven can and will pull it off. Hopefully Ava will turn out to be a good addition to the cast, and not yet, another mistake.

I saw Erica today, she looked like a fool. Makes me sad. I thought this had potential to let some of her shine through, but i thought it was the complete opposite. *sigh*

This makes no sense? Its all with the camera angles????

i MEANT acting-wise. Technically, yes, it'll work. It's not going to fail.

But can LEVEN make it work? That's what I meant.

And also: I don't read all AMC press like some o f you do! Sorry! It's mostly NBC for me. So I had no idea the L-girl didn't know about Ava coming on board (and I wouldn't have offered my conspiracy theory of her pushing for it.)

LMAO, Lily and Ava will have tons of scenes together, and they'll be as flawless as the Adam and Stuart scenes always are. Gees. Leven's actual age doesn't bother me. It's more Ava on the whole and the fact that they're more then likely just doing this to sex up Leven and keep Lily. I have no doubt Leven can and will pull it off. Hopefully Ava will turn out to be a good addition to the cast, and not yet, another mistake.

I saw Erica today, she looked like a fool. Makes me sad. I thought this had potential to let some of her shine through, but i thought it was the complete opposite. *sigh*

Well, finally something we agree on -- because no matter how the Ava character came about, I agree. this is all about getting sex scenes for L. There's no other reason to bring such a character on.

This thread has gone to hell in a handbasket.

Hasn't it though. the entire thread is more about how much of a tramp Amanda is and how Leven is not going to be able to pull off Ava/Lily.

LOL That is such a Krystal Carey line.

*ducks for tomatoes*